Found job on work programme - Can they take credit?

elwhyify

Hi,

I recently found work on my own accord while on the work programme. This was administered by the DNCC.

My question is will they get the bonus for this. (Not sure on details on this - anyone have more info?).

I had a total of four appointments with them - only two attended. (Sent me appointment - Didn't receive - Luckily sanctioned only once).

They didn't have any input, or were any help whatsoever in my success in finding this job.

Have I got any control in the decision in this.

I wouldn't mind usually but the last time I spoke to them, to let them know that I wouldn't have to attend their next appointment due to employment, they got really arsey when I wouldn't give them any details on the employer. Almost as if they need this information to get there payday. Is this true?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

SJI85

As far as I'm aware they require employer details. Even if they don't, you aren't obliged to give a reason when you sign off. You could just sign off (if you do give a reason, just say you're going off travelling or about to start caring for a relative) and start the job. You will not be obliged to comply with the Work Programme once signed off.

I had a similar issue. In the end I decided to inform the Work Programme provider, as they were willing to re-imburse my DBS costs and provide a small payment for clothes and travel once I started the job.

seven-day-weekend

Just sign off saying you don't want to sign on any more. Then it's none of their business what you do next.

Richard_Cranium

I don't know how long the OP's been with the provider, but for the record all WP referrals are for 104 weeks.
They will continue to harass the OP for employer details until the 104 week period has expired, If the OP is confident that he/she will never need to sign back on within the referral period then it's safe to be fairly blunt when dealing with the provider, on the other hand if a reclaim is on the cards then it would be best just to ignore them.
Either way, don't give them the opportunity to garner money for nothing.

MissMoneypenny

Richard_Cranium wrote: »

They will continue to harass the OP for employer details until the 104 week period has expired,

List their emails as junk; change your email address; don't answer their calls.

There was a thing in the papers about the work providers. It seems they get given some money when they take on a claimant, for the use of that claimant (to help them get back into work) but the work providers tend to keep this money for themselves instead. They are meant to earn their money from finding a job for that claimant and that's when they get given a large sum from the government. A sort of 'No win, no fee' contract.

If the claimant finds the job themself, then is seems that the work providers try to get the details so they can claim the credit for finding that job and get that large lump sum (their fee for finding that job) from the government. This is not how the work providers are meant to claim that extra money from government.

The article also went on to say that many work providers were getting claimants to go self employed and claim other benefits instead, such as Working Tax Credit- so that the work providers can then sign off their client and claim that large lump sum from the government. Of course, they are failing to tell those claimants of the welfare changes that will happen under Universal Credit, when their claim will be worked out on them earning national minimum wage, even if they don't earn that amount.

It all seems a bit of a scam and a total waste of taxpayers money.

mro

elwhyify wrote: »

Found job on work programme - Can they take credit?

They will take credit if they can.

Did you give consent, sign a consent form when you started WP, for them to contact you & employers if you get a job ?

If you did, you can withdraw this.

busy_mom_2

As abover really, yes thay can claim and they will try. Inform JCP you have found work, you dont have to give the name of the employer but if you do they will be obliged to share it. They can only claim if they get the paperwork signed and you stay in employment for 26 weeks or more.

sja75

I once had an occasion whereby I had found work whilst on a Work Program type scheme. The WP provider had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Had a few calls and emails asking me for details. I knew they was trying to collect their commission. The final email they sent said if I provided the details of employment, they would pay me the grand sum of £25.00

I declined. They get paid substantially more than that...

Housing_Benefit_Officer

Why care if they do or don't.

FluffyDuck3

Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »

Why care if they do or don't.

If they are paid on results then they should only receive payment when they have contributed to the result.

Isn't the payment per client in £1000s?

[Deleted User]

WP a classic example of the private sector doing something more badly than the public sector could