UKPC & Newlyn

Naomi12_3

Hi,

I received a Parking Charge Notice in December last year from my place of employment, and after reading some very bad and outdated advice (Which obviously I now know to be wrong), I ignored 2 seperate letters from UK-PC.

I am now receiving letters from a debt collection company called 'Newlyn' who are now demanding I pay them £154.

The car park itself requires a Parking Permit which at the time I had, but obviously forgotten to display in my windscreen. The car park itself requires no form of payment in order to park there, just the valid permit displayed in the window.

I've been reading through a few posts including the 'Sticky' ones at the top of the forums, but to be honest a lot of this is baffling me & I don't understand it at all. I no longer work in the building but they did have all my car details recorded as an employee.

I'd just like some advice on how to approach this in the mean time as a lot of forums and threads I've looked at conflict information.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

da_rule

UKPC aren't litigious so are very unlikely to pursue you any further than just sending their usual letters.

If it is a work place can you not just tell your employer and ask them to get the PCN cancelled?

Naomi12_3

That's good to know! I was quite confident in ignoring them as a result of the information I'd read previously, but the letter from Newlyn spooked me!

The building is all serviced offices, so my employers literally rented from them.
Unfortunately the business has closed now so they don't occupy the rooms anymore & all permits have had to be returned. I don't know whether I should contact them or continue to ignore them?

The last thing I want is them turning up on my doorstep or attempting to remove my car!

da_rule

They cannot turn up and remove your car. They need a court order to do that, which they will only get if they take you to court (UKPC that is as Newland cannot), and they win and then you don't pay the judgment amount.

Don't ignore any letters that are titled 'Letter before claim' or any documents from the County Court.

Still might be worth trying to contact someone at the building to get it cancelled (if they have a site manager or something).

ColliesCarer

Naomi12 wrote: »

.....The last thing I want is them turning up on my doorstep or attempting to remove my car!

They can't do that unless they had taken you to court and you had lost and didn't pay.

As da_rule has said UKPC are very unlikely to take you to court

But keep all correspondence and watch out for what's known as a letter before court coming from either UKPC or a solicitors - or indeed court papers arriving.

Anything else you are ok to ignore but if in doubt whether anything you receive is either of the above come back

EDIT - apols for the crossover da_rule

Naomi12_3

Ok I'll keep an eye out, the only letter received so far is 'Notice of Appointment as Debt Collectors'.

I'll see if I can contact the building manager, although generally from past experiences they're pretty much useless! It's got to be worth a shot though.

How do you suggest I handle any further letters in the mean time? My only concern is that if they are likely to take me to court, I could end up paying far more in costs than what I would if I just stumped up the money now.

Naomi12_3

That's great! Thanks to you both!

da_rule

It is very unlikely that they will take you to court. And even if they do then PPC's have been getting a bit of a pasting in court recently, and where they have been 'successful' they aren't getting what they want. A couple of days ago ParkingEye received £20 (instead of the £160 that they were claiming).

Keep all correspondence, and as I say don't ignore anything titled 'letter before claim' or anything from the County Court.

Redx

trouble here is that you are making too many assumptions that are not based on facts

they cannot take you to court, only the landowner or the legally appointed agent can do so

so not newlyns, not any other debt collector either (clearly explained in the NEWBIES sticky thread

nor can they take your car or anything other silly thing you wish to claim, the only time a bailiff can be involved is

if you go to court
you lost
you didnt pay the sum of money mentioned by the judge in the correct time period
then a ccj was issued

only then can enforcement take place , like bailiffs

none of the above has happened

so the correct advice is this

1) always try to get the landowner to cancel the charge
2) ignore all debt collector letters, even red letters
3 but dont ignore an LBC from the creditor or landowner
4) dont ignore court papers from northampton or salford

Coupon-mad

Naomi12 wrote: »

Ok I'll keep an eye out, the only letter received so far is 'Notice of Appointment as Debt Collectors'.

I'll see if I can contact the building manager, although generally from past experiences they're pretty much useless! It's got to be worth a shot though.

How do you suggest I handle any further letters in the mean time? My only concern is that if they are likely to take me to court, I could end up paying far more in costs than what I would if I just stumped up the money now.

Show me any threads on here or on other forums where UKPC have taken someone to court? There aren't any. They've been taken there but not actually started cases themselves. They were convicted of a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 in Hull Crown Court:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=63597

And a motorist took them to Court for damages and won (trespass by UKPC!):

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS

They make it up on their website - these cases below con the PP blog are NOT UKPC parking ticket wins as they all come from the same month, same court in 2009 and the amounts are too high! And anyway a court claim in the small claims track typically has £60-odd added in costs (claimants are not allowed to rack up costs):

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/ukpc-do-we-really-take-people-to-court.html

Why not search this forum for 'Newlyn' as a keyword (ONLY the parking forum, not the whole MSE forum) and see how often this latest letter has already been discussed? Better than staying on your own thread which will soon slip down. Tons of other threads here to search and find and we don't need an update of the same letters, can't keep up on a forum if everyone posts about every letter again and again.

It's shame you read old posts and ignored the fake PCN though seeing as we haven't advised that for over a year. You missed a trick called POPLA.

bod1467

Just to prevent a flurry of replies, OP found the way to create his own thread.