Yipee! UKPC V Fisher TK MAXX BURNLEY LANC's FREE RETAIL PARK, BB11 2DL

Legacy_user

Thanks to the Forum.

Received today,

Parking charge for parking longer than permitted.
UKPC claimed breach of terms and conditions of parking as set out on the signage at the sight of Burnley Lanc's, Free Car Park, at TK MAXX on 03/12/13.

PEOPLE it doesn't matter if it is ten minutes or ten hrs - it just isn't legal for UKPC to illegally harass you!

I, POPLA and thousands of others disagreed that I overstayed and owed fees for doing so, and POPLA's common sense prevailed in the end.

Advice- Follow guidance on this forum to the tee- it is a little time consuming especially if you are new to forums like me, however the result is sooooo bitter sweet.

DO NOT ignore the letter/letters (which look like a summons etc. If it is a summons then it would have your Council’s Emblem or a Police Badge stamped on it! ) A couple of years ago your friends may have ignored the letter/letters and they never heard anything of it , it just all went away- BUT now it's changed

1) **YOU MUST** Acknowledge and REPLY by appealing, 2) wait for a POPLA code from the parking control after they refuse your appeal – and get a pace on as time matters. Appeal to POPLA by following the Sticky on here – it is very, very helpful!


Do not do UKPC work for them – Don’t name anyone (Like I did, but it still doesn’t matter if you have- really it doesn’t) not yourself, partner or child, it's not your place to do UKPC's leg work for them they have employee called F**** to do that.


Be forewarned- You will get threatening letters, upping the game from £60 to £100 - I received 3, as they could not find the actual driver, ( there are four drivers in our household), so they moved on to me as a last resort , registered keeper! oh they really did scare us and I found it difficult to listen to people on here as I’d never used a forum before, so scary! I worried, researched and listened to others on this forum who gave me excellent advice.



1)Appeal to them saying “I appeal as it is unfair and feel that the Law is on my side as the fee, NOT A FINE/SUMMONS ETC, is not a ‘Genuine Pre-estimate of Loss’ (Which just means how could they have lost so much money through you parking on a car park, maybe they lost 1p - £1 charge at the most but no more than this).

2)They will refuse the appeal and give you a ‘POPLA Code’. Also some low scummy, scary undermining letter with facts like" UKPC parking charges are in line with British Parking Association... Legally permissible—And…, " if you don't believe us see ParkingEye v Somerfield Stores (2011), Combined parking Solutions v Darrington (2012), and Combined Parking Solutions v Blackburn (2007). Does this sound familiar? (JUST TO SCARE YOU!)

"MAY BE THIS IS CORRECT UKPC, BUT YOU HAVE NEVER, NOT EVER WON FOR GENUINE PRE-ESTIMATE OF LOSS- LOL! SOOO SWEET!"

Afterwards, may be a week or so, UKPC will bargain with you £100 reduced to £60. DON'T DO IT! Don't question the worthless letter but listen to us on the forum. What have you got to lose?
Then they will refuse your appeal letter to them, saying Not Genuine Pre-estimate of Loss and send a letter apologising for causing you stress ... That's what they did to me, so I followed the advice on here. It is easy!

**REMEMBER it is a civil matter so no Bailiff can ever, not ever come knocking to take your goods that would only ever be after a ‘County Court Judgement’ not a poxy UKPC worthless parking letter, it really is worthless (I say letter, as that's what it is- IT IS NOT A SUMMONS!)**

If you have already used names or admitted responsibility in a letter to them, before finding out on this forum, then it still doesn't matter- honestly it really doesn't,. You only named people because you felt rushed and intimidated at the time. Still appeal... I named people, as I thought to myself- I’ve brought my children up with respect and responsibility and if they do wrong then they need to know that there is always a consequence and they have to accept it. This is our morals but they don’t count to scum like UKPC who think that it is OK to bully and intimidate the younger generation, the elderly generation or the most deprived... Appeal, I STILL DID AND EVEN AFTER NAMING PEOPLE, I STILL WONE  But the best of the cream is that my children now know how to stand up to Scum like UKPC as long as they follow the Law and the rules on this forum… Never Ignore The Letter!!!!!!!!!!

A message to UKPC, POPLA , Local Councils , Government, and British Parking Association- Well, my words cannot describe all of YOU (Not to the lovely Assessor) Being a full time carer/come social worker/teacher, I see the damage that you have on the lives of innocent, honest, unemployed and hardworking families privileged and under privileged children. They suffer even further through FAT- CAT companies and those who allow them to send very formal looking letters with the intention of making them look like Council Parking Tickets. Government allow the tactics being used to scare people into paying for FAT CAT life styles ... SHAME ON YOU ALL, UKPC, LOCAL COUNCILS, GOVERNMENT, and BRITISH PARKING ASSOSIATION. I hope things change in the future and you protect the most vulnerable in society, regarding companies like UKPC!

Newbies DO NOT MENTION YOUR NAME, THE PARKING COMPANY, EXACT DATE, PLACE, ETC ON THIS FORUM BEFORE THE APPEAL, WHEN ASKING FOR ADVICE. JUST USE ‘X’ Sshhhh, don’t do the leg work for the Parking Companies play them at their own game, because they are all over the forum.

People just be honest when you park and you will always have the full back-up of this forum***(keep up to date with the forum in the future too as things always change and this is 2014)***




Thank you again forum.

The_Deep

Grandmothers and eggs come to mind.

Coupon-mad

Well done, another win!

Half_way

I assume that TK maxx or whoever owns the car park and thought it a good idea to get UKPC to act as their agents on their car park will be re funding you for your expenses.

James_N

And thank you too for the nice tell-it-like-it-is summary of your experience in this - it will be encouraging for others to read in the future.

ColliesCarer

hi Newlook,
Congratulations on your win - brilliant.
If you haven't already done so would you be willing to share the POPLA assessors ruling on your case as it could be really helpful to others

vivvov

Excellent..in exactly same boat postcode wise..found your appeal to popla on your thread and now can cross ref to recent appeal UKPC v Fisher... ??

Adamzak

Got a letter through post showing my car and stayed over time in burnley TK Maxx.

Help what shall I do?Ignor or pay

Dee140157

Adamzak, the usual advice is to read the Newbies thread, which I would advise you to do. But in your case I would go even more basic and suggest you start by reading the thread you have posted on!

bod1467

And then start your OWN new thread if you need further advice.

The_Slithy_Tove

Adamzak wrote: »

Got a letter through post showing my car and stayed over time in burnley TK Maxx.

Help what shall I do?Ignor or pay

Can't believe that you appended your unrelated post onto a random, 3-month old thread, and ignoring everything the very thread says, you ask such a question.


I know we should be kind to newbies, but an ounce of self-help would go a long way.