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NCP pccn at rail stn.. Just checking I'm on the right track ( no pun intended)

carandbike
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Hello all. I have a fair idea of what I am doing, but could do with a few thoughts from the experienced and knowledgeable amongst you, of things I may not have thought of and probably getting the wording just right.
I got a windscreen ticket at a train station in England, parking on double yellow lines in a free 20 min drop off car park, with a few Premium Parking spaces, which I parked behind.
The vehicle is leased, the reg keeper (I believe) is the company I work for and I think it better for me to deal with it now, as the driver, rather than leave it to anyone else messing things up.
I am a contractor working on the TOC and Network Rail infrastructure, had a parking permit from the station office and our company parking notice displayed. Ok, I know our notice means as much as the yellow lines do in a private car park, but in 17 years, this is the first ticket at a station I've had, so it must convey some thing to a parking attendant with some common sense.
The notice seems to be purely private land as no bye laws are mentioned. Breach of T&C's, so I guess loss arising and only to the landholder. Station staff don't know if bye laws cover the area, and I wonder if just a passing mention in my initial appeal that they might and the area possibly not being relevant land. I think this might be just over complicating things for now. I will have to wait until tomorrow to contact the train operating company and ask if they employ NCP or if the car park is leased, as one of the station staff thought it might be. Is that relevant in regards to standing to offer contracts and GPEOL?
So the appeal I have in mind is;
1) Parked where I did with permission of station staff and have a permit.
2) NCP do not own the land and therefore have no standing to offer a contract. And even if they do, it is not enforceable because ...
3) Inadequate signage. Only one sign at entrance, facing away from the direction I entered. No other parking company signs.
4) GPEOL, or lack there of!
I will write up an appeal broadly based on those things, and anything else that may get mentioned, and post it up before I send it.
Thanks all
I got a windscreen ticket at a train station in England, parking on double yellow lines in a free 20 min drop off car park, with a few Premium Parking spaces, which I parked behind.
The vehicle is leased, the reg keeper (I believe) is the company I work for and I think it better for me to deal with it now, as the driver, rather than leave it to anyone else messing things up.
I am a contractor working on the TOC and Network Rail infrastructure, had a parking permit from the station office and our company parking notice displayed. Ok, I know our notice means as much as the yellow lines do in a private car park, but in 17 years, this is the first ticket at a station I've had, so it must convey some thing to a parking attendant with some common sense.
The notice seems to be purely private land as no bye laws are mentioned. Breach of T&C's, so I guess loss arising and only to the landholder. Station staff don't know if bye laws cover the area, and I wonder if just a passing mention in my initial appeal that they might and the area possibly not being relevant land. I think this might be just over complicating things for now. I will have to wait until tomorrow to contact the train operating company and ask if they employ NCP or if the car park is leased, as one of the station staff thought it might be. Is that relevant in regards to standing to offer contracts and GPEOL?
So the appeal I have in mind is;
1) Parked where I did with permission of station staff and have a permit.
2) NCP do not own the land and therefore have no standing to offer a contract. And even if they do, it is not enforceable because ...
3) Inadequate signage. Only one sign at entrance, facing away from the direction I entered. No other parking company signs.
4) GPEOL, or lack there of!
I will write up an appeal broadly based on those things, and anything else that may get mentioned, and post it up before I send it.
Thanks all

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Looks like you've got a very good grasp of what you need to do. Post your letter up here before your send it, just so it can be checked.0
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For any NCP railway PCCN the advice on the NEWBIES thread is to appeal early, NOW, anyway (even if this wasn't a leased company car). NCP play silly devils if people wait for the NTO/NTK and so we've learnt to cut out the crap and send NCP the template appeal early, or your own version written as the driver (good idea as it stops them having grounds to write to the keeper). So yes, your plan looks good to go once you've written it out in detail.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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