2 readings, 1 rate

JamesKUK

Hey there,

Basically, I have 1 meter with the 'low' and 'normal' readings. I get charged the same per Kwh on all of these readings. I thought that I was supposed to get a lower Kph rate for the low readings. Can somebody please clarify why I get the same rate for both low and high.

On my meter for my last bill it read
Meter no. 3021 LOW = 1600 KwH used
Meter no. 3021 Normal = 9000 KwH used

On my bill for the last quarter:
Meter no. 3021 NORMAL (13p each) = 1600 KwH used
Meter no. 3021 NORMAL (13p each) = 9000 KwH used




Many Thanks

James

notbritishgas

It looks as if you are not on an Eco 7 tariff but on a normal one and you are with a supplier who is capable of adding the 2 readings together to charge the normal rate.
If you were on an Eco 7 tariff then yes the night (low) rate would be cheaper but the day rate would be a lot higher than 13p per kwh.

As you have an Eco 7 meter you could of course ask to go on an Eco 7 tariff but you would need to work out if it would be cheaper for you. Do you have night storage heaters for your property?

Be_Happy

JamesKUK wrote: »

Hey there,

Basically, I have 1 meter with the 'low' and 'normal' readings. I get charged the same per Kwh on all of these readings. I thought that I was supposed to get a lower Kph rate for the low readings. Can somebody please clarify why I get the same rate for both low and high.

On my meter for my last bill it read
Meter no. 3021 LOW = 1600 KwH used
Meter no. 3021 Normal = 9000 KwH used

On my bill for the last quarter:
Meter no. 3021 NORMAL (13p each) = 1600 KwH used
Meter no. 3021 NORMAL (13p each) = 9000 KwH used

Hi James. I'm puzzled by these readings. Do you really use 10,600 Kwh a quarter - this is massive.


Secondly, your 13p seems high. I'm on E7 which is usually higher than other areas where we live and is also higher still because I'm on a 2016 fix, but my normal rate is 14.9p and my low rate is 6.83p.

scaredofdebt

Usage is high, were those actual reads?

You're on a single rate tariff as opposed to Economy 7.

Assuming you are using 9,000 Kwh during the day and 1,600 during the night, you are very likely to be better off on a single rate tariff, ie what you already have. If it's the other way around then you will almost certainly be better off with Economy 7.

Do you have storage heaters?

13p a unit is very good per Kwh on a single rate tariff.

lstar337

Be_Happy wrote: »

Secondly, your 13p seems high. I'm on E7 which is usually higher than other areas where we live and is also higher still because I'm on a 2016 fix, but my normal rate is 14.9p and my low rate is 6.83p.

You are in the minority.

Mine is:

19p/kWh Peak
7p/kWh Off Peak

JamesKUK

Thanks for clearing that up for me

So.. my standard single rate is probably better for me, as for i use considerably less on the low rate.

And yes.. actually, those are my quarterly bills with Eon.. £1570 the last one. It is a 9 bedroom house, 2 kitchens, 4 fridges, 3 washing machines, 2 dishwashers, 20 odd rooms, 3 home music studios.. a lot of money.. I have friends who live at the house who help me pay the bills and pay for maintenance for the house. We are all doing music together at the house.

I desperately need to change my provider. I did a comparison and Green Star Energy came up as having a rate of 11.3 pence per Kwh on their standard variable rate. That would save me about £300 per quarter.. the problem is, I can't find any customer feedback for Greenstar Energy, as for they are a relatively new company.

I'm also with British Gas for my gas supply. Their bills are also about £1000+ per quarter. Our gas boiler is almost industrial in size. I think I should change both my electric and gas suppliers. Need some advice on this. I went on uswitch, and Greenstar came top of the list saying it would save me £1500 per year switching both my gas and electric to them.. and I had to make up about the amount I used, pretending that my bills were £750 per querter for gas and £750 per querter for electric, the highest amount the form would accept.

I can't be on direct debit, as for my account doesn't have that sort of money in it! I rely on my friends to help pay these tremendous bills!

Nada666

Why 'can't' you use a direct debit account? Even a basic bank account gives you access to direct debits.

At your usages you should probably be looking at each fuel on a different tariff rather than dual-fuel.

There is little risk choosing a new or little known supplier. So long as you read your meters and keep track of how much you are using (and keep track of how much the supplier is taking) you will be fine.

Nada666

(You should do the comparison using annual usage in kWhs, not quarterly billing amounts.)

The maximum gas usage for a domestic supply is about 72 or 75,000 kWh per year - which is why the calculator didn't like higher values than £750 (750 / 0.04 = 18,000. Times 4 is 72,000.)

Former_E.ON_Company_Representative:_Malc

Hi James and welcome to the forum.

As others have said, it sounds like you've a two rate Economy 7 meter but are on a single rate tariff.

To benefit from an Economy 7 tariff, you need to use a certain amount of electricity during the cheaper off peak times. The actual percentage depends on the region, prices and your usage.

From the figures posted, during the last quarter, your off peak usage was approx 15 per cent. If this trend continues throughout the year, you'll certainly be better off stopping on a single rate tariff.

This isn't a problem for us. We just add the two readings together and charge at the one rate.

You certainly go through a lot of electricity and I can fully understand your concern. We'll be happy to talk to you about ways you might be able to cut back and save money. There's also a lot of energy saving tips on our website.

Hope this helps James. Let me know if you need any more details as always happy to help.

Malc