CSA Payments by both parents...

DBarker94

Morning all,

I live in quite a unique situation.

I have two children and an ex-wife. My Ex wife had mental issues and after we split up made allegations against me about my children. These allegations were proven to be completely untrue.

My ex had a breakdown and social services were called. She was diagnosed with split personality disorder. The children were placed with their grandmother due to these allegations and her condition.

After extensive reports and time consuming checks the children began to see their grandmothers home as their own and so social services decided the best thing for them was to stay where they were. I obviously disputed this. This went to court and the grandmother was awarded an SGO. She got free legal advice and a barrister to represent her. I had to pay £200 an hour which I couldnt afford and ran out of money half way through. (Different issue...)

Anyway whilst my children were with their mother I was constantly asked for money. Every day I would pay her more and pay her shopping etc. Eventually I got frustrated and contacted the CSA myself and set up a payment to her.

When my children moved to their grandmothers the CSA paid her instead.

However, ever since they have now moved to their grandmothers house, their mother has not contributed a single penny to the childrens upkeep. Now I dont dispute that I am paying CSA what I do dispute is that she doesnt. I have £428 a month deducted from my salary whilst she doesnt pay anything.

Can anyone advise on this?

Witch_Hazel

Does your ex work, or receive benefits? Also has the grandmother made a claim against her daughter?

DBarker94

Witch_Hazel wrote: »

Does your ex work, or receive benefits? Also has the grandmother made a claim against her daughter?

I think she works part-time. Her partner works full time and pays for the house etc.

I dont believe she has made a claim but surely the claim should be based on both of paying CSA not just me? How can you have two claims for each child?

RAS

There was a case here where the daughter moved into a drama or dance school teacher's home. Both parents were paying 15% of their salary to the teacher under a CSA claim.

Crellow4

If the grandparent chooses not to apply for maintenance from her daughter, the CSA will not get involved. Whether your ex contributes to her/your children has no bearing on your contribution.

PreludeForTimeFeelers

DBarker94 wrote: »

I think she works part-time. Her partner works full time and pays for the house etc.

I dont believe she has made a claim but surely the claim should be based on both of paying CSA not just me? How can you have two claims for each child?

You can have two claims for a child where there are two non-resident parents, and the child is living with someone else, e.g. a grandparent. Both biological parents have a financial responsibility if the grandparent has put in a claim, but they're under no obligation to do this.

jacklink

oh yes they will draw money from a father anyway they can, note that they rather have children stay with an extended maternal family rather than the nuclear paternal parent and be a family that is more beneficial for the children.

sorry just my opinion

take care

jacklink

so surely if a carer of the children chooses not to pursue csa from one parent then the carer of the children should only get half csa ??

zzzLazyDaisy

jacklink wrote: »

so surely if a carer of the children chooses not to pursue csa from one parent then the carer of the children should only get half csa ??

You might think so, but you would be wrong. Your contribution is assessed entirely on your own income.

Any income/contribution by any other party is irrelevant.

You may think it is unfair - and in unusual cases such as yours it may indeed be unfair. But the CSA rules are applies across the board. If you are unhappy about this, your best bet is to contact your local MP, but I doubt s/he will be able to do anything about it.

jacklink

shocking, as the pursuer of a claim is being bias, and obviously those requesting moneys is also bias, surely there is a law against this ?

HoneyNutLoop

Not necessarily. They may have a private agreement with their daughter to pay for their grandchildren, and therefore not need the CSA. The op may believe his ex has not contributed a penny, but perhaps the grandparents simply do not wish to discuss it with him.

As it is, he is assessed by the CSA to contribute his share towards his children's costs, which may or may not represent half of the children's actual cost to the grandparents. Perhaps the grandparents are happy to pick up the rest of the tab that their daughter should be contributing, as it is their daughter, and parents often help out their children long after they've ceased being a child.

It's already been confirmed that the parents respective contributions make no difference to each other's assessed amount. Past that point, really what concern is it to the op what his ex pays, so long as his children are being well looked after?