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Debt Free Definition

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  • Softstuff
    Softstuff Posts: 3,086 Forumite
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    For me it's until my mortgage is gone, that'll be when I breathe a sigh of relief. See, for me it's about what would happen if OH or I weren't working... and without a mortgage we'd be fine, but with one we'd be stuffed.
    Softstuff- Officially better than 007
  • LJD1_2
    LJD1_2 Posts: 2,173 Forumite
    I consider myself debt free as i've paid off all loans, credit cards etc. However I still have a mortgage which i'm trying to pay off now. Although that is a debt i've something to show for it at the end and it's not a debt that gives me sleepless nights and causes me to worry - it just gets me mad that I pay so much interest! Lol!
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  • It's interesting that most people don't consider a mortgage a debt. Would you consider a mortgage a debt if you lost your job and couldn't pay it or if the property market crashed and the mortgage far exceeded the value of the property ?
  • Frugal_Fox
    Frugal_Fox Posts: 1,002 Forumite
    For me its about paying off all my credit debt. Things like the store card, credit cards and overdrafts, plus our secured loan. I do not count the mortgage - although when I am 'debt free' this will become priority to overpay on to reduce asap. Personally I don't include car finance as we have agreed (between DH & me) that this is something we won't include. We don't have a big flash car by any means - but we did shop around and get the best deal we could when we had to replace our car.
    "A simple life freely chosen is a source of strength. Do not be pursuaded into buying what you do not need or cannot afford." Quaker Faith & Practice 1.02.41
  • Snaggles
    Snaggles Posts: 19,503 Forumite
    I do consider my mortgage a debt....because it basically is....but I will still class myself as debt free when I have no unsecured borrowing. So that's a complete contradiction isn't it...lol! :o
    "I wasn't wrong, I just wasn't right enough."
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  • Frugal_Fox
    Frugal_Fox Posts: 1,002 Forumite
    It's interesting that most people don't consider a mortgage a debt. Would you consider a mortgage a debt if you lost your job and couldn't pay it or if the property market crashed and the mortgage far exceeded the value of the property ?

    Its not that I don't see it as a debt - clearly it is :D .

    However its an asset, and yes, if it all went belly up selling the house would clear our mortgage - all bar the worst crash ever. However, when I arrived on these boards I was looking to sell our house to clear all our debts and start again. I believe I was diagnosed with 'debt fatigue'. Now we do all we can to clear our debts, plus we are saving for a holiday in Oz next year when we will be debt free, and we are keeping the house!

    My mortgage is a debt and will be paid off before its 'due date' however, my first goal is to clear all the other stupid debt!
    "A simple life freely chosen is a source of strength. Do not be pursuaded into buying what you do not need or cannot afford." Quaker Faith & Practice 1.02.41
  • I think of it as credit card/unsecured loan debt.

    I dont include our mortgage.

    I also dont include my student loan. I see that as paying more NI etc as that will be paid off over my working life. I do this becuase its not (at the moment) provided by a bank and its not on your credit file.
    Starting debt @ LBM: £8436.51 (8/5/7)
    Barclaycard: £5804.52 (May 07) - 6.9% LOB Now: £5315.25
    Egg: £1640.99 (May 07) - 1.9% May 08 - Now: £1242.69
    [strike]Barclays O/D: £991dr (May 07) - 16.9% - Now: £0.00[/strike]
    Debt August 07 £6557.94
    Aim: To Clear Barclays OD by Nov 2007! Realistic DFD: August 2009
  • AngusS
    AngusS Posts: 3 Newbie
    Thanks loads to all of you for the replies, very interesting debate.

    I wonder about the true practicalities of being completely DEBT FREE ?
    For instance, perhaps you have paid off your mortgage etc etc, but you still require transport in the way of a car. Cars are a major expense these days and are like pouring your money down a drain. If like me though you need a car due to location then you need to finance it somehow, as some of you have said buying a car outright is not easy.

    Interesting to know how some of U finance your vehicles ?
  • smudgemanc26
    smudgemanc26 Posts: 477 Forumite
    AngusS wrote: »
    Thanks loads to all of you for the replies, very interesting debate.

    I wonder about the true practicalities of being completely DEBT FREE ?
    For instance, perhaps you have paid off your mortgage etc etc, but you still require transport in the way of a car. Cars are a major expense these days and are like pouring your money down a drain. If like me though you need a car due to location then you need to finance it somehow, as some of you have said buying a car outright is not easy.

    Interesting to know how some of U finance your vehicles ?

    Its funny you should ask that question i was only thinking about that one this morning. Lucily for me i have bought my car outright with some money i had, the little bit of shortfall was funded by my dad who i pay back each month, this has worked out great cos he wanted to contribute to it and has because i dont need to pay back interest on a silly APR to the car company or on a loan therefore he has helped me a great deal and im very thankful for that.

    My car will need renewing in about 2 years as i only got it last year so hopefully i will be debt free this year i am going to put so much a month away into savings and start a car fund so when the time comes when i need a new car i can pay for it outright without having to borrow or get into debt.

    Unfortunately i was involved in a crash too it was the other parties fault and they drove off and left me. Luckily they have been traced and i can claim compensation so any offer i get from this will also go towards the car fund.

    I dont intend to buy anything flash just a little run around which will get me from A to B. I dont see the point or understand people who rack up loads of debt just to be seen in the latest model or super fast car - whats the point?:confused:

    I know one thing its gonna give me great satisfaction to walk in and get a car and when they ask how im going to pay i'll be able to say i'll pay for it all right now thanks.:T
    LBM - April 2007
    Claimed back my bank charges from Natwest - £1196
    Halifax Credit Card Claiming £467.35 Rec £467.35!/Capital One Card Claiming - £523.92/Barclaycard Claiming - £403.58 Rec £403.58/MBNA Claiming - £584.37 Rec£584.37
    Proud to be dealing with my debts
    Update: 2009 - Currently claiming £1900 from Natwest
  • Softstuff
    Softstuff Posts: 3,086 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    AngusS wrote: »
    I wonder about the true practicalities of being completely DEBT FREE ?
    For instance, perhaps you have paid off your mortgage etc etc, but you still require transport in the way of a car. Cars are a major expense these days and are like pouring your money down a drain. If like me though you need a car due to location then you need to finance it somehow, as some of you have said buying a car outright is not easy.

    Interesting to know how some of U finance your vehicles ?

    It's a simple answer for us, until we're mortgage free our current car has to keep on running! We don't have a car each, we have 1 which means my OH ferries me to and from work. Once we're mortgage free and not having to pay it, if we can wait about 6 months we'll have enough for a very nice car, second hand.

    I can't really imagine anything being so unrepairable that that plan would alter.

    I once had a new car on finance, that was a huge mistake. Our mortgage is the last time we'll pay anyone interest for borrowing money.
    Softstuff- Officially better than 007
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