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Debt Free Definition
 
            
                
                    AngusS                
                
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                    Hi Folks
Without a mortgage but with a car loan of 18K, I would like to understand the "definition" of debt free that you are all working on ??
Is debt free defined as NOT owing any finance at all and having all bills paid, or is debt free the postion of having more assets than liabilities ?
My understanding would be that debt free means you owe nothing to anyone
Any views ?
                Without a mortgage but with a car loan of 18K, I would like to understand the "definition" of debt free that you are all working on ??
Is debt free defined as NOT owing any finance at all and having all bills paid, or is debt free the postion of having more assets than liabilities ?
My understanding would be that debt free means you owe nothing to anyone
Any views ?
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            I think the definition for most people (except the MFWs) is to be free of all non-mortgage debt. Whilst it IS a debt, a mortgage is positive in the sense that it's paying for your home and 99.9% of people could never afford to buy outright. After all, not everyone earns Wayne Rooney's salary, do they?0
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            My definition is to be free of all debt with the exception of my mortgage.
 I would include credit cards, loans, car loans, re-mortgage/consolidation loans and student loans as the debt that should be cleared before you can say you are debt free.
 Of course mortgage is still a debt and I have no doubt that I will be tackling this in a big way once my other debt is gone!
 Some people don't count their student loans as real "debt" but it is still money owing, so in my mind should be counted.Successful women can still have their feet on the ground. They just wear better shoes. (Maud Van de Venne)Life begins at the end of your comfort zone (Neale Donald Walsch)0
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            I'm with the general consensus here that I don't include my mortgage for reasons previously mentioned (i.e. investment, positive debt etc.).
 However once I clear all the tosh I intend to start overpaying my mortgage and chucking as much as I can at it...roll on 2012 (not for the olympics) it's my current DFD!
 cheers.DMP Mutual Support Thread Member No 201
 DMP with Payplan DFD sometime in 2017:eek: !
 BUT...I'm Proud to be dealing with my debt.0
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            Debt free is no debt to anyone.
 I would exclude mortgage, if I had one, as I don't see that as a debt, but an investment.
 I would also exclude 0% credit cards, if the money is in a savings account.
 I agree with this definition basically having more assets than liabilities is debt freedom.;)0
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            nearlyrich wrote: »I agree with this definition basically having more assets than liabilities is debt freedom.;)
 I don't agree (sorry ).  I have more assets than liabilities so your statement above would mean I have debt freedom. ).  I have more assets than liabilities so your statement above would mean I have debt freedom.
 I do agree that I have a choice, in that I could sell my house to clear all of my debt, but that is as far as it goes. The debt that I am trying to pay off cannot be left to look after itself like my mortgage can. I am faced with my "unfriendly" debt every day and until that has gone, I do not consider myself to be have debt freedom. Also, there is nothing to say that my house will increase at a % value that is greater than the % that I am charged on my debt. As many of my debts are at approx 25% APR, this is expecting a lot of the property market to keep things positive.
 But I do know what you are saying, and it is comforting to know that if the worst came to the worst I could sell up and start again.Successful women can still have their feet on the ground. They just wear better shoes. (Maud Van de Venne)Life begins at the end of your comfort zone (Neale Donald Walsch)0
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            I don't have a mortgage, but my own personal definition of 'debt-free' would mean no credit cards, HP or loans. Mortgages are different in that they are linked to an asset that might (hopefully) appreciate over time.Retired in 2015.
 Moved to Ireland September 20170
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            I agree with Hypno - if your assets outweigh your liabilities it just means you're solvent (on paper anyway).
 You could have a £250k house, £150k mortgage and £90k unsecured debt - I wouldn't consider that to be debt free by a long stretch.Proud to be dealing with my debts - DFW Nerd #4910
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            I would say i am debt free when ive paid all my credit cards, loan, and overdraft back. Although i'll still have a mortgage like some of you say thats an investment and not a debt, and who really can afford to buy a house outright at these current prices, unless you are on Rooneys wage!LBM - April 2007Claimed back my bank charges from Natwest - £1196Halifax Credit Card Claiming £467.35 Rec £467.35!/Capital One Card Claiming - £523.92/Barclaycard Claiming - £403.58 Rec £403.58/MBNA Claiming - £584.37 Rec£584.37Proud to be dealing with my debtsUpdate: 2009 - Currently claiming £1900 from Natwest0
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            I split it in to two types of debt free
 Unsecured debt free
 Completely debt free Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043 Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043
 Que sera, sera. 0 0
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