External Render

lukerichardson40

Hello all,

I've not had a quote yet, should be coming in soon as I have had guys over to price up but wondering if anyone has any experience here...

Looking for someone to render the back of my house. It is around 60 sq m roughly. I have not taken in to account the windows (5 of them) or doors (1 large bi-fold)... maybe takes the surface area down to 50 sq m, but going for worst case and it is 60.

All the old render is off so am back to brick. The brick work is in good condition.

I have scaffolding, so no need to factor that in.

So... does anyone have any ideas about this? I am in East Yorkshire, just outside of Hull. If you are in this area and have had it done and can suggest someone good please let me know.

From the research I have done, looks to be around £30/sq m, but I cant find out if that includes removing the old stuff and scaffold or if that is extra and the £30 is just the render.

Thanks very much, and if I have neglected any details which might help then tell me.

Luke

docmatt

Hi I live in the Midlands and only know of one decent company, Jerome Rendering in Cannock but I have no idea if they travel afar, all I know is they do a mint job, good luck

lukerichardson40

Thanks for that docmatt. I have had quotes from a few companies from £850 - £2500 so quite a range.

£850 is concrete scratch coat, then concrete top coat then paint. £2500 quote is a dubbing (??) base coat with a fibre mesh then a coloured (white) top coat.

Some more research needed I think!

ceredigion

Scratch coat and dubbing are one of the same thing , just different terminology.
Concrete is completely wrong and if the plasterer used that in relation to rendering your wall, I would tell him to sling his hook. You cant render a wall with concrete. You would use mortar. i.e sand and cement. The second quote you mentioned with a mesh and a white finish , sounds like some sort of polymer render. Probably a product called K-render. Which doesn't use sand and cement at all. Completely different thing. You could produce a white finish with silver sand ( white) and snowcrete ( white cement ). But if you were , you wouldn't be using the mesh to reinforce it. Coloured finishes work out roughly twice as expensive in materials but labour stays roughly the same. But then of course you don't have to go and paint it. The other thing you need to think about is whether you want a smooth finish or a pebble dash finish ( dry dash ) or a rough cast finish ( wet dash). Either of which can be done in either grey or white , though not with polymer finish , though we can produce texture polymer finish , if that's what you want. As you can see , its all much more complex than people initially imagine. Would suggest your £850 price is simply wishful thinking . Somewhere around your £30 per square meter is about where you need to be.

lukerichardson40

Thanks ceredigion... I used the wrong words there, he said he is using mortar, my mistake thinking that was concrete which is not the same.

This £850 seems to be around £15/sq m... would this be because it is back to brick already and the scaffold is already here so not a cost factor?

I know what they say about paying peanuts etc.

Thanks very much for help so far!

stebiz

I'min the same boat. I have scaffold up and have decided to have 4 inch insulation screwed on and then rendered.

nobulljusttruth

Sand and cement is generally called concrete, it just doesn't have gravel in it. The above was right.
Silcone poliimer based renders (K Rend, etc) are the best option but cost more. NO PAINTING might not mean much when you are paying out, but in a few years when the repainting starts. .....

Your £30 will not include painting, ad K-Rend is through coloured so once its done its done.

You could of course repoint the bricks and have a brick wall, or pay even more and have a brick finish render. (£50 mtrs).

Last thing I would do is have a sand and cement render, this is what fell off before you started again.
Go to you toob and add this to the search bar
/watch?v=Qwz4swyXNLA very smart brick finish.....

lukerichardson40

Thanks for everyones input. I am thinking that going for the old technology of sand/cement might be false economy and to go for the K-Rend stuff. More expensive now, but worth it in the long run! If there is anyone reading this who has had this done in the E. Yorkshire area and can recommend, let me know!

nobulljusttruth

Four Walls in halifax cover whole yorks

worth a try,