Parking ticket appeal - UK Parking Control

brownstone73

Hi,

I would like some advice please.

I was given a parking ticket back in 2012 for parking in our own bay, but the permit was not attached to the windscreen at the time (it basically fell off the windscreen).

I appealed the fine and was asked to email through prove of the parking permit, which I did. I also explained that I do not own the car any longer.

My last communication to UK Parking Control was on 26 November 2012 where I attached my parking permit (For my own parking bay) and I asked them if they require anything further.

This morning (24/03/2014), I received an email from them, stating:

"Thank you for your e-mail received by the UK Parking Control Appeals Department.

In order for your case to be investigated can you please provide all relevant information via our On-line Appeals Form at :-

http://www.ukpcappeals.co.uk/appeal

This is an automated response, please do not reply as this address is not monitored

UK Parking Control Limited
Appeals Team."

I'm not sure how to deal with this, the last thing I want is a letter saying I owe hundreds / thousands of pounds!

Thanks in advance.

The_Deep

There are several threads about this company trying to charge people on their own land, here is a current one.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4918428

I am trying tgo get UKPC disimissed at a block of flats in which I own a property. Here is a letter which I have written to Thames Valley Housing Association which you may use.

All[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ow me to introduce myself, I am the new owner of 123 ABC Court. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I was surprised to see that TVCHA, a registered charity, employ former clampers, UKPC, to manage the car park at ABC Court.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]You may or may not be aware that this company is one of a number of similar private parking companies who use underhand, threatening, and often unlawful methods to bully, threaten and lie to extractextortionate sums of money from people, many of whom can ill afford it, for minor alleged breaches of non existent contracts. In some cases even for parking in their own demised property for failing to display a “parking permit”, despite the fact that they are entitled to “quiet enjoyment” of their properties. Also, are thePPC allowed to conduct trade in the car park? Are business rates applicable?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For a few minutes overstay in a free car park in a shopping centre, wherethere has been no loss to anyone, they will demand up to a hundredpounds in penalties, contrary to the Law of Contract. They uselegalise, threats, and scary letters from dodgy solicitors, debtcollectors and bailiffs. They try to pass themselves off as policeor councils, sending out fake court summonses, produce falsestatements from witnesses and take people to the County Court. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]UKPC have not taken a single person to court. Could this be that they know that they have no case? [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]They were former clampers called Denver Security Services. Iin September 2011 Hull Trading Standards decided to take them to Hull Crown Court on 16 counts,unfortunately they lost 15 of these charges on technicalities. However, they were so concerned about this company's tactics thatthey were willing to commit £41,000 of tax payers' money to prosecute them. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Many of these companies will take people to court, even when parked intheir own demised property. This can result in whoever signed the contract with them, (i.e. the managing agents and/or the Landowners being themselves taken to court by successful defendents for damagesfor trespass, stress, and harassment, (see R. Davey v UKPC,Winchester Crown Court 23rd January 2013).[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I am not a lawyer, but I have read the current parking signs in ABC Courtand it would appear that, from the words “failure to comply ...”they are alleging breach of contract. How can people bebreaching a contract they are not party to?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]To sum up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]These companies are vultures, preying on the ignorant and vulnerable. They are not interested in the management of car parks for the benefits of residents, but fining them for minor breaches of meaningless terms and conditions, and as a registered charity you should not be anaccomplice in their near criminal activities. Unless they own the land they have no power to enter into contracts with owner, landlords and tenants of ABC Court.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]To win a case for trespass they have to prove loss to the landowner. If the landowner is also the person they are pursuing, there can be no loss.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Unless you have granted it,UKPC has no authority to take cases to court as t[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]hey have no legal authority to issue fines, only the Police, Councils ,TFL, and some airports and TOCs can do that.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Their so called Parking charges are merely speculative invoices, and their claims for breach are in fact unenforceable penalties.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Havingread this, I am sure that you will wish to have your tenants, many ofwhom do not have a great deal of moneyn, and immediately disassociateyourself from this company. [/FONT]





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Coupon-mad

I'm not sure how to deal with this, the last thing I want is a letter saying I owe hundreds / thousands of pounds!

So...it would only be junk mail!

I would complain to their clients and also to the BPA by email (see post #6 of the NEWBIES FAQs sticky thread about the email addy to use when complaining to the BPA). Forward the email trail to the BPA and ask whether this is in their view, a professional response in 2014 to a 2012 email! This has clearly not been dealt with in a timely manner and should be cancelled.