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Testing for PIP when already certified as unfit to work

vigman
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edited 19 March 2014 at 6:44PM in Disability money matters
I had to retire on ill health grounds 2 years ago aged 59. I did not make a DLA claim but am now considering a PIP claim.

In order to retire on ill health grounds and get paid my employment pension and tax free payments as if I had worked until I was 65, I had to have many tests including a report from a top occupational health specialist at a teaching hospital. They all certified that I would never be fit to work again.

My multiple conditions do not always reveal my level of disability.

Given this, would I still have to go for a PIP assessment, please?

TIA

Vigman
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  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    PIP is not about your inability to work, it looks at your care and mobility needs. You should submit all the evidence you have, but you may still be called for a face to face assessment. Hopefully you also have evidence that is more up to date?
  • vigman
    vigman Posts: 1,384 Forumite
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    tomtontom wrote: »
    PIP is not about your inability to work, it looks at your care and mobility needs. You should submit all the evidence you have, but you may still be called for a face to face assessment. Hopefully you also have evidence that is more up to date?

    I appreciate the clarification.

    It is very difficult to get Level 1 disability retirement and the certification for Tax office stating that I cannot work again up to retirement age.

    Surely there is no newer evidence needed as this also proves my care and mobility needs are fairly serious if they stop me doing any paid employment right up to the end of my normal working life?

    Thanks

    Vigman
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  • 925dancer
    925dancer Posts: 537 Forumite
    Basically, when applying for any state assistance for disability you may be called for assessment in order to process your claim and make a decision.

    It is claimed, ahem, that awards are not made based on diagnosis but on needs and abilities, depending which benefit it is you are applying for.

    In the case of PIP, you have to meet the criteria in the descriptors. If evidence and information supplied is not deemed sufficient by the person who initially looks through your claim then you will be called to an assessment which will be carried out by a healthcare professional. They will assess you and produce a report making recommendations based on that assessment.

    The only people exempt from this process are the terminally ill with a less than six months prognosis.
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    vigman wrote: »
    I
    Surely there is no newer evidence needed as this also proves my care and mobility needs are fairly serious if they stop me doing any paid employment right up to the end of my normal working life?

    In short - the things to be proved differ.

    For example, in order to get the higher mobility component of PIP, you need to (simplifying somewhat) be unable to walk 20m most of the time.

    Any walking disability that you have that contributed to your being granted medical retirement that does not meet this would not be relevant to the mobility component of PIP.

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_sick_or_disabled_people_and_carers_ew/benefits_personal_independence_payment_e/benefits_the_pip_assessment_e/pip_activities_descriptors_and_points.htm
  • vigman
    vigman Posts: 1,384 Forumite
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    rogerblack wrote: »
    In short - the things to be proved differ.

    For example, in order to get the higher mobility component of PIP, you need to (simplifying somewhat) be unable to walk 20m most of the time.

    Any walking disability that you have that contributed to your being granted medical retirement that does not meet this would not be relevant to the mobility component of PIP.

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_sick_or_disabled_people_and_carers_ew/benefits_personal_independence_payment_e/benefits_the_pip_assessment_e/pip_activities_descriptors_and_points.htm

    Many thanks. I am a Blue Badge holder with limited mobility. I just can't bear the thought of another assessment but am going to make an initial claim now.

    Vigman
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  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    vigman wrote: »
    Many thanks. I am a Blue Badge holder with limited mobility. I just can't bear the thought of another assessment but am going to make an initial claim now.

    Vigman
    If you have been assessed for a blue badge, then the assessment may contain relevant information.
    You should be able to get a copy of this, and supply it along with the application, it might speed thigns up if it is clear enough as to your condition, and answers the relevant points.
    The mere fact of you having a blue badge isn't very relevant, because that can be for anything.
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