Parking Solutions 24

Shoot_the_cat

Hi
I have been reading all posts regarding PS24 with interest, but here is my position.
I work at a hospital, of which the car parks are "run" by PS24. I have been a bit cheeky since last summer by parking on kerbs mostly closer to the part of the hospital where I work.
A number of colleagues have told me to ignore the "fines" for £60 that have been attached to my windscreen, of which I have collected 13 since May 2013. I had a demand to my house in the mail referring to one I received in Nov 2013, and have appealed via POPLA.
Today the big manager of the hospital car park came to me with a list of dates sine May when I received these PCNs. He said that Mark from PS24 has been on the phone asking where the money is, and these now stand at £115 each!!!
He kindly stated that he'd mandated to get me to pay £30 one off to cover the first eight but would get back to me regarding the most recent five PCNs.
Basically I didn't pay these as I was told they were a deterrent and all the stuff on forums stating you should ignore private parking monetary demands.
I'm going to have to pay at least £30 at the minute, but still don't know regarding the last 5.
What are people's thoughts on this. I was prepared to ignore these but now this manager seems adamant the fines, whoever receives them, from PS24 need to be paid.

Redx

all covered in here, https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822 especially if its england or wales , where the law changed 18 months ago in which case you should have been appealing them not ignoring them

you can ask the landowner to get them cancelled , you can appeal each one and go to popla, you can even fight them in court if they issue court claims althouh only the landowner or their solicitors should do that, not the ppc unless they have a legal contract allowing them to do so

ideally you appeal each and every one at popla using not a gpeol , no contract/locus/standing and bad signage as your 3 main points

now please read that NEWBIES thread, and stop calling the fines as they are not fines , they are invoices

da_rule

They are not fines firstly, they are invoices. The advice has not been to ignore them since October 2012.

As you have started ignoring them theres not much you can do about the older ones. Just sit it out. I would also challenge what authority PS24 had to disclose your details to the hospital. If you had been a patient surely this causes confidentiality issues.

If you have any which are still within the appeals limit then you should appeal them.

Have a read of the Sticky Newbie thread for some more information and the procedure that should have been followed.

Stroma

I would pay the £30 for the 8 tickets as that is fair, but get it in writing that the payment is in full and final settlement of it. As for the final ones offer £3-£4 each as that is what they have accepted for the previous ones. I suggest in future try to comply with the parking policies there

bazster

Is "the big manager of the hospital car park" your manager? Does your contract of employment say anything about you having to pay invoices raised by PS24?

If "no" and "no" then I'd be inclined tell "the big manager of the hospital car park" to shove it where the sun don't shine (and you might want to explain to the human resources department that you consider your employer to be in breach of the Data Protection Act by confirming to PS24 that you are an employee of the hospital).

Guys_Dad

It is always difficult when the employer is concerned. Yes we can spout what the legal position is but employers can take views and cause all sort of unrelated bother.

I would go with Stroma's pragmatic advice given that Stroma doesn't usually advise paying PPC.

Stroma

The problem Bazster is that the employer has parking policies in place, breaking them could mean discipline action being taken, and as the car is probably registered at the hospital, and any actions would have to go through the nhs trust, I think that they would have some form of oversight in this matter.

And Guy I only say pay because this would represent the loss, IMO it's probably less than the loss as I would say that should be at about £5-£10 a ticket. I think the trust is being fair, so there is no reason I can think of in not paying it. Another reason is that they are setting precedent with this issue, how can they reasonably ask for more for the remaining tickets?

Coupon-mad

Shoot_the_cat wrote: »

Hi
I have been reading all posts regarding PS24 with interest, but here is my position.
I work at a hospital, of which the car parks are "run" by PS24. I have been a bit cheeky since last summer by parking on kerbs mostly closer to the part of the hospital where I work.
A number of colleagues have told me to ignore the "fines" for £60 that have been attached to my windscreen, of which I have collected 13 since May 2013. I had a demand to my house in the mail referring to one I received in Nov 2013, and have appealed via POPLA.
Today the big manager of the hospital car park came to me with a list of dates sine May when I received these PCNs. He said that Mark from PS24 has been on the phone asking where the money is, and these now stand at £115 each!!!
He kindly stated that he'd mandated to get me to pay £30 one off to cover the first eight but would get back to me regarding the most recent five PCNs.
Basically I didn't pay these as I was told they were a deterrent and all the stuff on forums stating you should ignore private parking monetary demands.
I'm going to have to pay at least £30 at the minute, but still don't know regarding the last 5.
What are people's thoughts on this. I was prepared to ignore these but now this manager seems adamant the fines, whoever receives them, from PS24 need to be paid.

Are you being ironic there, the bit I've highlighted in red - you are joking about 'kindly'? You do not 'have' to pay £30 or 30p or anything at all.

Tell the Manager you'd rather deal with PS24 and if they think they have a case you will see PS24 in small claims court. I can understand the issue and that you work there but why are you suddenly thinking you have to pay? Unless you've breached staff terms like not displaying a scratch card - in which case MAYBE pay the £30 if the PPC put it in writing that £30 is the TOTAL amount for all eight earlier fake PCNS (not £30 each, not by any stretch of the imagination!).

Have you got a more recent one from Feb/March? If so for the love of God wise up and start appealing these as per the NEWBIEs thread so they can all be knocked on the head at POPLA. And please sort out the issue that's causing you to get these invoices so you don't keep collecting more - or a PPC might smell the money and try a small claim.

Stroma

I would say £30 for all 8 fake tickets is fair , £3,75 per invoice, so if they went to the dvla for each one then that would leave £1.25 to cover stationary etc. think its cheap to settle on that. But obviously £30 per ticket would be a penalty and I would fancy my chances at court if it went there.

Another thing that could be done is to go to the dvla and ask them if they went there 13 times for keeper details, I would say no as they would look to save this money. Which of course is a breach.