Bristow and Sutor - Mailing Neighbours and Disclosing Personal Information

George_Michael

So a debt collection company such as Bristow & Sutor can write to the OP's neighbours to ask if they know their location and provided that they don't disclose details that could lead to the people receiving those letters finding out the reason for the enquiry then they are not breaking any legislation.

But, as they are not allowed to state who they are (according to azari), how are these people meant to respond to those letters!

yangptangkipperbang

Azari wrote: »

Data Protection Act.

Ah ......the last (or first !) resort of the lazy, ignorant, blustering, desperate, stupid, etc, etc, etc ............blame it on the DPA :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

.........or Health and Safety.............

Azari

yangptangkipperbang wrote: »

Ah ......the last (or first !) resort of the lazy, ignorant, blustering, desperate, stupid, etc, etc, etc ............blame it on the DPA :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

So true.

We should have a thread specially dedicated to excuses using spurious reliance on the DPA.

George_Michael

Azari wrote: »

So true.

We should have a thread specially dedicated to excuses using spurious reliance on the DPA.

But wasn't it you that was the first poster to mention the DPA in this thread?

Azari

George_Michael wrote: »

But wasn't it you that was the first poster to mention the DPA in this thread?

ROFLMAO!

Given you seem to find my statements contradictory you are making two massive errors in logic here.

1) Just because some mentions something does not mean that they support it.

2) Even if you believe something is useful in some circumstances that does not mean that you believe its use (and, more particularly its misuse) in others is to be welcomed.

The DPA is a useful idea which has some beneficial consequences. It is also, unfortunately, used as a catch all by many to get out of providing information they don't want (or can't be bothered) to.

Hanky_Panky

Azari wrote: »

A very accurate little ditty for someone who can't properly use the quote system and still doesn't seem to have a clue what s/he's talking about.
You're correct - for once ! I don't know how to use the quote system. My life feels so bereft without it.

I'll just deal with one of your 'red' points as it's the one that shows your complete ignorance about legal matters in startling clarity:

"Ok then, please point to the exact piece of legislation or the part of the guidelines that leads you to this conclusion"

As has already been explained to you, in very simple terms:

The DPA (and most other legislation) does not enumerate all cases that its provisions cover. To try to do so would be absurd. What it does do is state any exemptions to those terms. You seem to believe that a debt collection agency does have some exemption.
So time to put up or shut up - give me one case example where a DCA has been fined, sued or had any sanction against them for doing this.


That is why I invited you to explain how you would defend yourself against a charge brought under the DPA for knowingly passing on personal information (that a subject is of interest to debt collectors) to third parties.
Already explained many times to you but you choose not to want to learn - very sad.

Of course, all you did was huff and puff and refuse to answer the question. A sure sign of someone who knows he's lost the argument but doesn't want to admit it.

You keep trying to claim that the DPA applies here but you have spectacularly failed to show how. We need a lot more than you have currently provided. I can't prove something doesn't exist - but if you claim it does then prove it.

Hanky_Panky

ayayay wrote: »

The OFT and the relevant trade body have actually agreed a form of words that can be used to trace missing debtors. As long as the company follows the guidance there is no problem. They send a so called "soft letter" which does not make reference to any debt (many people also use similar letters to trace beneficiaries of legacies).

Has no-one ever heard of Google?

You've done it now - what can Azari do now . Surely it MUST be contrary to the DPA - even if I don't know why, I will cling stubbornly to my belief.

redmalc

Pay your debts and you will not have people chasing you

bod1467

One post newbie? Quite possibly. And given the way the thread developed then (s)he appears to have been successful.