JSA help needed please - habitual resident

WelshPaul

missapril75 wrote: »

If they funded the trip and saved public funds for the duration what's the problem?

No problem with that. I do have a problem with people spending every penny they have on luxuries then expecting others to pay their food bill.

If I had £550 to my name I wouldn't spend it on an iPhone, then head down to the job centre and complain about not having any money to live off.

Maybe the OP should live within their means and had a two week holiday and put the rest of their savings into supporting themselves back into work.

missapril75

@WelshPaul

Yep, that's exactly what I meant in the earlier part of my post.

It used to amaze me in my old job at DSS/DWP how so many people on benefits would return from whatever it was they did, making no arrangements for managing upon their return and then expect to get priority over someone already in a queuing system.

MissMoneypenny

missapril75 wrote: »

I don't see why not. They may have paid taxes themselves.

A UK taxpayer that had worked and saved for a few months trip abroad, could come back and claim contribution based JSA. Whereas someone who hadn't been a UK taxpayer/taxpayer for long, now can't go off on an extended jolly and spend all their money, as they need to support themselves when they return until they get a job. Sounds fair to me.

MissMoneypenny

pmlindyloo wrote: »

Here's another example of someone caught by the new law:

http://m.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11011326.York_man_refused_benefits_due_to_new_immigration_rules/

It reads like he was on JSA before he went abroad.

Mr Hall said: “I couldn’t believe it. I went to Brussels thinking it would eventually help me find work back in the UK but now I seem to have been penalised for doing this.

missapril75

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

A UK taxpayer that had worked and saved for a few months trip abroad, could come back and claim contribution based JSA. Whereas someone who hadn't been a UK taxpayer/taxpayer for long, now can't go off on an extended jolly and spend all their money, as they need to support themselves when they return until they get a job. Sounds fair to me.

Plenty of people paid taxes and don't qualify for conts based JSA as you well know.

Not sure where you get off on calling it an extended jolly - wait, yes I do - but did you miss the reference to people going abroad,for example, grape picking, and then coming back home and being disqualified by the same rule you approve of?

tomterm8

samroo wrote: »

Looking at this issue from the other side of the coin - surely someone cannot expect to go on an extended holiday of 3+ months and then to immediately sign on for benefits upon their return. The benefits money comes from the taxes of working people who are lucky to get 4-6 weeks holiday a year

Er, but legally you certainly CAN go on an extended holiday of 3+ months and then immediately sign on for benefits. The question isn't if you can do that. The question is where you can do that.

whodathunkit

missapril75 wrote: »

Plenty of people paid taxes and don't qualify for conts based JSA as you well know.

Not sure where you get off on calling it an extended jolly - wait, yes I do - but did you miss the reference to people going abroad,for example, grape picking, and then coming back home and being disqualified by the same rule you approve of?

Grape picking is definitely an "extended jolly" - that's why young people do it.

MissMoneypenny

whodathunkit wrote: »

Grape picking is definitely an "extended jolly" - that's why young people do it.

Much more fun than picking vegetables and flowers in Lincolnshire, or packing tomatoes.