Howden Kitchen quote

stealthfighter76

Hi,

We are refurbishing our house and planning to put a new kitchen and bathroom. We are based in London and Howden has quoted £11,500 just for cabinets in Tewksbury Skye range, appliances worktop, sink and taps are separate which I feel is quite high.

I have taken quotes from other places which are cheaper but my partner is wishing this range only. We have opened our own trade account with them and trying to negotiate price. They are claiming that they have given us discounted trade price but Im not agreeing with that. Appreciate if someone can guide what should be the right price for following

1 TKS5198 Tks Lo Nh 1000 Cc 3 Dwr Base 713.16
1 TKS5860 Tks Lo Nh 300 Full Ht Curved Wall 524.16
1 TWW4757 Tww Nh 300 CC Tl Curve Beaded Gls 516.24
2 TKS5146 Tks Lo Nh 600 Cc 3 Dwr Base 991.44
1 TKS5585 Tks Lo Nh 300 Cc 2292 Tall Larder 466.2
1 TKS5526 Tks Lo Nh 1000 CC HL Full Ext Cnr 452.64
1 TKS5534 Tks Lo Nh 800 HL Full Ext Cnr Stor 447.6
2 TKS5801 Tks Lo Nh 200 Wine Rack 806.4
1 TKS5734 Tks Lo Nh 500 Dwr/Basket Base 396
1 TKS5158 Tks Lo Nh 800 Cc 2 Dwr Base 376.2
1 TKS5883 Tks Lo Nh 1000 Cc Fr Fz Br 460 Tall 374.4
1 TWW4861 Tww Lo Nh 300 Cc Full Ht Curved 354.48
1 TKS5514 Tks Lo Nh 600 CC Tall Int Mw 334.8
2 TKS5753 Tks Nh 500 x 900 CC Tl Beaded Gls 587.52
2 TWW4753 Tww Nh 500 x 900 CC Tl Beaded Gls 587.52
1 TKS5597 Tks Lo Nh 600 Buoh Dwr Base 268.2
2 TWW4231 Tww Lo Nh 600 Cc Hl Base 457.2
1 TKS5980 Tks Base Gable End 227.52
1 RKC1151 Lo/Lo 800mm Dwr Base/Cnr Cabinet 190.8
1 FTK3982 Tewkes Wh 800 Decor Cabinet Face 182.88
1 TKS5904 Tks Nh 600 Hl App Door 129.96
1 LED2304 4 x LED clip on shelf lights + 117.36
3 FTK5683 Tewkes Skye 300 Larder Door 311.04
1 HYH2985 800 FESC Pan Drw Box 87.84
2 TWW4986 Tww Curv Cab Cast Pelmet Rtn 174.24
1 TKS5927 Tks Curved Plinth Return 84.6
2 TWW4932 Tww 910 T&G Base Decor End 161.28
2 FTK5609 Tewkes Skye 400 FH Door 146.88
1 TWW4928 Tww Curv Cab Cornice Rtn Clas Prof 69.48
4 TWW4946 Tww 932 T&G Tall Wall End 227.52
2 RKC1460 Lo/Lo 300 Tall Wall Cabinet 104.4
1 HYH8210 1000mm Solid Timber Cutlery Tray 47.88
2 FTK5600 Tewkes Skye 300 Drawer Front 74.88
1 RKC1431 Lo/Lo 600mm F/H Wall Cabinet 35.28
4 LED0113 420mm LED Recessed Strip Light ww 112.32
4 HYH5906 Kitchen 500mm Glass Shelf Pack (x3) 86.4
1 DRV1200 Diffused shelf & Flexi strip 15w 18.72
1 RKC1835 1000 Wall Shelf Light Oak (x1) 14.76
4 ACK8150 Clear 500 Glass Shelf 51.84
2 HYH8133 Dlx 600 Cutlery Tray 23.04
2 TKS5956 Tks 2310 T&G Tall Tower Decor End 19.992
4 TKS5952 Tks 2130 T&G Tower Decor End 38.256
4 TKS5913 Tks Castellated Cornice 35.04
1 TKS5955 Tks 2310 Tall Tower Decor End 8.484
2 HKC0055 Soft Close Kitchen Hinge Pack. 13.752
2 GAR0365 Aerosol adhesive and activator 11.016
1 HKC0072 Adjustable 3 Part Leg Pack (x4) 5.112
8 ACK8900 Nickel Glass Shelf Support (x1) 40.608
2 HKC0020 Steel Joining Plates & Screws 9.576
4 TKS5910 Tks Classic Profile Cornice 2.4m 15.504
1 TKS5946 Tks 932 T&G Tall Wall End 2.844
3 TKS5920 Tks Continuous Plinth 7.776
2 TKS5919 Tks 30mm Sqr Profile Cornice/Pelmet 4.248

Thanks in advance

Doozergirl

What discount % have they applied to units and what % to the decor ends etc?

There's no getting away from the fact that you have selected a kitchen right at the top of the range which also relies on lots of extra decorative pieces. Things like curved corner cabinets cost spectacularly more than the regular ones once you've put cornice, pelmet and specially shaped kickplates in. The Tewkesbury Oak that we put into a house was 50% more than the usual ranges.

I can see lights in there (if you have an ikea nearby you will get a much better price in te lighting dept) and internal drawers and cutlery trays etc which all add to cost. This not your average Howdens shopping list or kitchen, so it won't compare to ranges like the Glendevon or Burford which are the ones we see all the time. There are ways to design a kitchen to use less units etc which helps massively on cost, but if you want a way to reduce the price, I'd remove the curved units. They add no function and kitchens look just as well designed without them.

Discounts can rely upon the relationship with the branch and the liklihood of repeat business.

stealthfighter76

According to them they have given discount of 70% on unit , 99% on the panels and trims and extra 10% on pull out corner units

Doozergirl

To be fair to Howdens, they've clearly made an effort to knock the price down as they seem to have less of a margin demand on end panels etc so are giving those to you for peanuts.

70-75% on units is completely usual. Different ranges have different discounts.

How many units are in there?

I'd look at a bit of a redesign. Clearly, I haven't seen your layout but you don't have many wide units in there. If you consider that a 1000mm unit with 2x500mm doors usually costs little over half of the price of 2x500mm units then putting in really wide units suddenly becomes a really good idea!

The day I worked out how to buy kitchens cheaper was the day I spent a few hours deciphering the quote breakdown and looking at the individual prices of each unit. I then considered how valuable pull outs and curvy units really were to me.

Do you need a solid wood cutlery tray that's for £60? Do they do a cheaper one or could you buy one from elsewhere?

Last thing to do is haggle. If that is the only design and unit combination that will fit and you want it for £10k, then speak to the manager, tell them that's your price, that you're ready to buy and see what happens.

stealthfighter76

There are 18 units including the wine rack, thanks for your advice and I was wishing to make sure whether quoted price is exorbitantly high or within reasonable range

phill99

I fit a lot of Howdens kitchens. Tewksbury is very expensive and the curved units, as Doozergirl suggests are priced off the scale. It's the extras that they sneak in that often bump the price up.

Aerosol and activator are half the price at screwfix. The lights are also a third if the price at screwfix.

For what you have got, it's probably about right. But go back to them and say Magnets have given you a better price and you are going with them. For this level of sale, you'll suddenly find they pull the stops out.

stealthfighter76

Thanks Phill99, we are still negotaition hopefully we will be able to reach a happy medium :-)

leveller2911

stealthfighter76 wrote: »

Hi,


I have taken quotes from other places which are cheaper but my partner is wishing this range only. We have opened our own trade account with them and trying to negotiate price. They are claiming that they have given us discounted trade price but Im not agreeing with that. Appreciate if someone can guide what should be the right price for following

Same old Howdens ,trying to con the trade into thinking they are "Trade only" .

Not having a dig at the OP and I wish them well but why do Howdens still claim to be "Trade only" when in fact they will sell to the Public?

This along with the fact that their kitchens are poorer quality than they were 5-10 years ago and their pricing structure is a joke are the reasons why I rarely deal with them now.