Civil Servant for 23+ years yet no pension?

atush

You said yourself you feel entitled, and that says it all. Gadget and I can't have any more to say than what you said yourself.

Employment contract law. Read up on it. It allows changes to the contract you signed up to.

And in fact, the public sector is STILL the gold standard re pensions, Even if some like the teachers will be striking over the changes to these gold standard pensions.

gadgetmind

Tromking wrote: »

we are somehow nefariously robbing the country blind while no-one is looking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Tromking

atush wrote: »

You said yourself you feel entitled, and that says it all. Gadget and I can't have any more to say than what you said yourself.

Employment contract law. Read up on it. It allows changes to the contract you signed up to.

And in fact, the public sector is STILL the gold standard re pensions, Even if some like the teachers will be striking over the changes to these gold standard pensions.

I did put a rider on that sense of entitlement by stating that some public sector jobs are difficult to perform and because of that a continued generous pension might be appropriate.
As I`ve said the true litmus test of the reforms will be staff recruitment and retention in the years ahead, and I have to say the signs are not looking good, in my area of the MOJ nobody appears to want to be a Prison Officer in London on a salary of around £22k a year and a retirement age of 68!...go figure!
This may upset Gadget, but watch the pension landscape change again in the future if the politicians want to carry on doing the stuff we rely on and more importantly they are responsible for and can`t because the employee benefits on offer aren't good enough.

mgdavid

maybe G4S would like a go at running it?
(other outsource companies are available)

xylophone

We seem to have come a long way from the OP's query about locating her pension... would not much of the above be more appropriate to a discussion board?

Tromking

mgdavid wrote: »

maybe G4S would like a go at running it?

....and they do, although not particularly well it seems.
Further to that they (and Serco) seem to have a penchant for stealing Gadget`s precious tax-payers money too.

gadgetmind

Tromking wrote: »

because the employee benefits on offer aren't good enough.

As these benefits are better in the public sector than the private sector, where would people go?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26512643

"Public sector workers are paid on average 14.5% more than those in the private sector, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)."

atush

xylophone wrote: »

We seem to have come a long way from the OP's query about locating her pension... would not much of the above be more appropriate to a discussion board?

Probably right, but the insults are still flying. From the Civil service no less.

The OP at least found their pension (well their leaving statement and that should be what they need), and I am relieved for them. It must have been very worrying told it didn't exist.

Seabee42

Tromking wrote: »

...or perhaps just a reasonable expectation that the terms and conditions they signed up to are honoured for the duration of their public sector careers is another slant to the argument.:)

Part of the problem is that because of life expectations a pensioner today could expect to receive their pension for roughly twice as long as a pensioner who retired in the 70s and 80s. To put it another way the benefit has doubled. It is this aspect that has led to public service pensions being unsustainable in the form they were in.

Sadly due to large amounts of politicking on pensions private sector pensions have become very poor in comparison which means the public at large is fairly unsympathetic to the minor changes to public sector pensions.

Tromking

gadgetmind wrote: »

As these benefits are better in the public sector than the private sector, where would people go?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26512643

"Public sector workers are paid on average 14.5% more than those in the private sector, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)."

Lol!
Did you read past the headline on that report?
Its not as black and white as you would have us believe Gadget, is it?
The out-sourcing of thousands of low skill public sector jobs over the years has made crude comparisons of this nature bordering on the laughable.