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end of tenancy

I have just moved out of a rented house, i cant remove my greenhouse as i had to concrete it down due to gail winds last year, its really expensive for me, over £700, plus a new washer machine which was over £500, can the LL legally destroy them both as i've left them there?
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  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,805 Forumite
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    edited 4 March 2014 at 8:23AM
    As greenhouse concreted down it is now part of the property & has belonged to the landlord for some time - since concreted, IMHO.

    Washing machine still yours - but landlord does not have to allow you access to get it. Suggest negotiate/grovel. Start with calm/polite letter or email then LBA than court action but don't raise your hopes.

    Why did you not bother to take something worth (to you) £500?? In reality a second-hand w/machine ain't worth much - maybe £100 (were there to be a court assessment of your loss...)

    Landlord perfectly entitled to charge you damage caused by putting in greenhouse - unless he agreed to it. Did you get his agreement in writing?

    Your other posts talks about notice from you ending 5th March: If so & unless a tenancy surrender has been signed it is still your tenancy, your property & IF you still have keys you can go back in & get washing m/c.

    Otherwise landlord should stick to this ...
    http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/content/uncollected-goods
    - for washing m/c but it is very very difficult to force him to.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,691 Forumite
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    LCD wrote: »
    I have just moved out of a rented house, i cant remove my greenhouse as i had to concrete it down due to gail winds last year, its really expensive for me, over £700, plus a new washer machine which was over £500, can the LL legally destroy them both as i've left them there?

    They can charge you for storage and then sell them to cover the cost of storage and/or removal. However they must comply with law of Torts(Interference with Goods) Act.
  • thesaint
    thesaint Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    anselld wrote: »
    They can charge you for storage and then sell them to cover the cost of storage and/or removal. However they must comply with law of Torts(Interference with Goods) Act.

    On what basis can the landlord charge for storage?
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    thesaint wrote: »
    On what basis can the landlord charge for storage?
    On the basis of the relevant clause in the tenancy agreement!!

    I imagine the landlord could, if he wished, pay to have the greenhouse demolished/removed, the concrete removed, and the area returned to its original condition.

    That cost could be passed on to the tenant unless the LL had given (written) permission for the concreted greenhouse.
  • LCD_2
    LCD_2 Posts: 10 Forumite
    edited 4 March 2014 at 10:43AM
    i left the washing machine because taking it would mean tearing the kitchen lino floor, plus i cant get it out on my own, no one can help me either, no removals are available, i didn't get written permission for the greenhouse, my fault on that part. As i cant afford to pay LL any money would i have to pay courts fees/costs when LL takes me to court?
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    LCD wrote: »
    i left the washing machine because taking it would mean tearing the kitchen lino floor, plus i cant get it out on my own, no one can help me either, no removals are available :(
    Surely the thing to have done would have been to discuss, in advance, with the LL. He might have been happy to agree for you to leave it, or indeed might have agreed to buy it for a nominal sum.

    Always better to reach agreement on issues in advance rather than ignore them and then deal with them in retrospect.
  • LCD_2
    LCD_2 Posts: 10 Forumite
    G_M wrote: »
    Surely the thing to have done would have been to discuss, in advance, with the LL. He might have been happy to agree for you to leave it, or indeed might have agreed to buy it for a nominal sum.

    Always better to reach agreement on issues in advance rather than ignore them and then deal with them in retrospect.

    i wish i could but the LL is and always has been terrible, massive damp issues never fixed, tearing down shed leaving all my gear out in the rain, i used greenhouse as shed most the year lol. I've always paid my rent on time, the LL even tried to make me repaint ceiling because the water tank leaked, thats the LL job, i have nothing to do with the water tank, other then informing of problems, especially as there is a big warning sign over it saying high voltage lol
  • thesaint
    thesaint Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »
    On the basis of the relevant clause in the tenancy agreement!!

    Sorry, I must have missed the Op saying there was a clause in the opening post.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    :rotfl:
    thesaint wrote: »
    Sorry, I must have missed the Op saying there was a clause in the opening post.

    Since OP didn't say there wasn't such a clause I just assumed there would be!


    :T :T
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    Either way, while the landlord must take care of the tenant's property, he is not expected to do it for free.
    If the goods prevent the property from being re-let, either he can charge tenant for loss of rent, and possibly double rent, or he minimises his loss by putting the goods in storage and bill the ex tenant.
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