Negative Amex Rewards Points

nzpod
nzpod Posts: 78 Forumite
Hi all,

I recently signed up for the Amex Gold to make a big purchase and get the extra reward points bonus for signing up.

I have since had to return the item as it was faulty. This has now put me in to negative reward point balance. I used the points to get an Amazon voucher.

I bought a replacement item on another credit card.

I intend cancelling the card soon as I only got it for the bonus.

What do I do? I am out of the bonus period so I will have to spend a LOT on the card to make it up.

When i cancel do you think they will ask me to repay the vouchers?

Cheers

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  • reclusive46
    reclusive46 Posts: 2,698 Forumite
    nzpod wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I recently signed up for the Amex Gold to make a big purchase and get the extra reward points bonus for signing up.

    I have since had to return the item as it was faulty. This has now put me in to negative reward point balance. I used the points to get an Amazon voucher.

    I bought a replacement item on another credit card.

    I intend cancelling the card soon as I only got it for the bonus.

    What do I do? I am out of the bonus period so I will have to spend a LOT on the card to make it up.

    When i cancel do you think they will ask me to repay the vouchers?

    Cheers

    I believe that the charge is something like 1.25p per point that you have to pay back.
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    I believe that the charge is something like 1.25p per point that you have to pay back.



    In that case, he keeps it open and never uses it, or just a nominal transaction every year to keep it open?
  • reclusive46
    reclusive46 Posts: 2,698 Forumite
    In that case, he keeps it open and never uses it, or just a nominal transaction every year to keep it open?

    The gold has a £125 annual fee after the first year though, thats the problem.
  • zerog
    zerog Posts: 2,478 Forumite
    If you are saying that the 20000 points bonus was debited when you refunded that particular item, then just spend up to £2000 again and ask for the bonus to be manually credited - which will bring you back to approx 0 points.
  • nzpod
    nzpod Posts: 78 Forumite
    zerog wrote: »
    If you are saying that the 20000 points bonus was debited when you refunded that particular item, then just spend up to £2000 again and ask for the bonus to be manually credited - which will bring you back to approx 0 points.

    They didn't put the bonus back on the account. I am -4000ish because the spend was charged in Ireland (transacted in GBP) so it technically was an overseas spend.

    So I have to now spend about 4000GBP locally which is MENTAL.

    I have had a pretty through look through the T and C and there is nothing there about closing account and negative reward points. Anyone have any ideas? I am happy to pay 1.25pence per point but really there is nothing in the terms about this.

    THanks
  • zerog
    zerog Posts: 2,478 Forumite
    You need to ask them to put the bonus back
  • nzpod
    nzpod Posts: 78 Forumite
    why would i do that? It will just make my position worse...
  • iAMaLONDONER
    iAMaLONDONER Posts: 1,669 Forumite
    nzpod wrote: »
    why would i do that? It will just make my position worse...

    Maybe ask CS? Or do so through a pseudonym twitter account?
  • nzpod
    nzpod Posts: 78 Forumite
    I did via their email, they said I had to spend but I did not push the T and Cs not stating anything.

    Thanks though
  • zerog
    zerog Posts: 2,478 Forumite
    edited 16 March 2014 at 10:42PM
    I don't understand what you are trying to say.

    Once you have spent £2000, then you are entitled to the 20000 points.

    You spent £2000 which earned double points, i.e. 4000 points, plus the 20000 bonus = 24000 points.

    Then you used 20000 points for a voucher, leaving 4000 points.

    Then you refunded the £2000 transaction, resulting in 24000 points being deducted. This leaves you with -20000 points. Your current spend is now £0, and you need to spend £2000 to earn the bonus.

    Now if you spend £2000 earning single points, you will get 2000 points plus the 20000 bonus. This is a total of 22000. Added to your current balance of -20000, this leaves you with 2000.

    I cannot see where spending £4000 comes into it
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