Your help please , breach of contract, contractual charge models

Coupon-mad

Capital Carpark Control = never heard of them
Car Park Management Services = maybe heard of them once but not known
Car Park Services Limited = never heard of them
Carflow Limited= never heard of them
Cascade Financial Ltd t/as National Parking Control = never heard of them
Civil Enforcement Limited also t/as Starpark & Creative Car Park & Parksolve & Versatile Parking = Contractual Charge on some signs now (breach on older signs)
Close Unit Protection Services Ltd (CUP)= never heard of them


CP Plus Limited Breach of contract BUT 'PENALTY CHARGES' ON RAILWAY LAND, ALLEGING BYLAWS BUT CHASING WITH DRP LETTERS.

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

thanks coupon and replied bod

Have removed some of the obscure ones for moment, can add them at a later date, and also debt collection ones

Coupon-mad

Cascade Financial Ltd t/as National Parking Control - haven't heard of them
Close Unit Protection Services Ltd (CUP) - haven't heard of them
LPP (Local Permit Parking) Limited - haven't heard of them
Octavian Continental Ltd t/as Octavian Security Ltd - haven't heard of them
PMSL - haven't heard of them except to laugh at their name
Parking Control Solutions ltd t/a Y P Enforcement Services - haven't heard of them
S & K Car Park Management Limited t/as Secure Parking - haven't heard of them




and Ethical Group - breach of contract


and CP Plus does need this proviso:
CP Plus Limited Breach of contract BUT 'PENALTY CHARGES' ON RAILWAY LAND, ALLEGING BYLAWS BUT CHASING WITH DRP LETTERS.

4consumerrights

The BPA's membership has grown quite a lot in since before Xmas with a lots of new additions including:

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Cascade Financial Ltd t/as National Parking Control - haven't heard of them
Close Unit Protection Services Ltd (CUP) - haven't heard of them
LPP (Local Permit Parking) Limited - haven't heard of them
Octavian Continental Ltd t/as Octavian Security Ltd - haven't heard of them
Parking Control Solutions ltd t/a Y P Enforcement Services - haven't heard of them
S & K Car Park Management Limited t/as Secure Parking - haven't heard of them

LPP (Local Permit Parking) Limited - haven't heard of them
Recognise this one though - think it has come up in last few weeks

Car Park Management Services Breach of contract

Car park Management Services - website via BPA does not work.
Company currently listed as non-trading.
director Philip Kelley - remember CMS (UK) LTD went into liquidation.
Philip Kelley is also running Comprehensive Management Services now a member of IPC

AoD

Looks like Parking Control Management have just switched to the Contractual Charge route.

I've not seen the signs or the "ticket" but their latest appeal rejection letter now states that "the issue is not one of pre-estimation of loss but of contractual agreement". I am seeing if I can get copies of the ticket and signs to see if they match up. Unfortunately the person appealed the "ticket" so I won't have a chance of seeing the NtK.

Edit: Just seen the "ticket"; it clearly clearly states "Breach: Parked without displaying a valid permit". And the signs mention "failure to comply". Guess they are just confused then ...

nigelbb

I look forward to seeing the signs. These PPCs are so stupid that they always mess up when trying to go the contractual charge route & the signs usually say something like "By breaching the T&Cs you agree to pay a contractual charge" which is a logical inconsistency as you cannot contract to do something that is forbidden i.e. breach the T&Cs.

AoD

Signs clearly state "Failure to comply with the terms and conditions will result in a £100 parking charge notice".

ColliesCarer

Athena ANPR Ltd certainly in their contract with Lidl are attempting to claim the charge is a Contractually agreed sum but it's actually a disguised breach of contract

See picture of sign
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8wyskx&s=8

Also their rejection letter says "There are sufficient number of signs in the car park, which clearly state that if you fail to comply with the terms you will be liable to pay a parking charge. When you drove into the car park and parked your vehicle, you agreed to the contractual terms detailed on the signage"

Coupon-mad

AoD wrote: »

Looks like Parking Control Management have just switched to the Contractual Charge route.

I've not seen the signs or the "ticket" but their latest appeal rejection letter now states that "the issue is not one of pre-estimation of loss but of contractual agreement". I am seeing if I can get copies of the ticket and signs to see if they match up. Unfortunately the person appealed the "ticket" so I won't have a chance of seeing the NtK.

Edit: Just seen the "ticket"; it clearly clearly states "Breach: Parked without displaying a valid permit". And the signs mention "failure to comply". Guess they are just confused then ...

The change of words is because they recently jumped ship from the BPA to the IPC. Their signs haven't caught up yet though!