Help! Passive smoking from e-cigarettes ...

HappySad

My potential lodger smokes e-cigarettes. I have read the articles below and I am still not sure whether to refuse this new lodger to move in because of the health risk of passive smoking with an e-cigarette. Also does it give off the smoking smell?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2523175/E-cigarette-smokers-absorb-MORE-nicotine-toxins-regular-smokers-Study-investigates-risks-tobacco-alternatives.html


http://www.esmokinginstitute.com/en/node/30

AnnieO1234

I would absolutely refuse, there simply hasn't been enough research to prove either way with the so called e-cigarette.

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[Deleted User]

The 'passive smoke' is quite similar to the vapour given off by an asthma spray. There should be no toxic components to it.. I wouldn't refuse them

There is a shocking lack of research though. I do think a lot of the negative articles in the papers are being pushed by the ciggy companies

pogofish

There is no such thing as "passive smoking" with e-cigs. Stop worrying about it or listening to panic/commercial self-interest tales from the anti-smoking industry.

All the ingredients in e-cig fluids are common food ingredients, flavours/humectants, so if you serve food in the house, there is no difference in risk.

Similarly a recent (Swiss IIRC?) study suggests nicotine absorbtion from the fluids is very high for the vaper, so there is next to none in any exhaled vapour.

pogofish

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I do think a lot of the negative articles in the papers are being pushed by the ciggy companies

Nope, its more the companies producing patches and other quit-smoking products that are behind this. The fag companies are mostly developing their own brands of e-cig!

HappySad

Thanks everyone for your comments. I really value them all. Have decided to accept the lodger. It would maker sense that their competitors are keen to rubbish their products with incorrect facts.

Does the e-cig smoker inhale nicotine then? Is it still not good for you?

Saturnalia

It isn't the nicotine itself that is the dangerous stuff, the damage to health is cause by all the other chemicals in cigarettes and the carbon monoxide produced by burning. E-cigs still deliver nicotine but in a much safer way than normal cigs.

They don't make any smoke smell. You might get a very faint scent of whatever the flavour of e-juice he is using (a lot are in fruity/candy flavours) but a lot of flavours make no detectable smell at all, and definitely nothing like the stink ciggies make!

pogofish

HappySad wrote: »

Does the e-cig smoker inhale nicotine then? Is it still not good for you?

Thanks for your consideration.

Yes, you do inhale nicotine in the vapour - Fluid comes in varying strengths but you do get people vaping no-nicotine fluid as well.

Many vapers tend to start on a stronger fluid and reduce the strength as time goes-on and they get further away from tobacco.

Its still not good for you, yes but its a lesser evil compared to the vast range of other far more dangerous chemicals produced by inefficent combustion of tobacco and it poses no/negligible risk to anyone else around us.

Also be aware that when using an e-cig, a vaper has no need to produce great clouds of vapour or bother anyone else. Once your e-cig is suitably warmed-up (couple of puffs), it is quite easy to control your breathing to exhale discretely and not offend anyone. Politeness cuts both ways.

Saturnalia

I'm in a houseshare and I vape in my room. I've asked my housemates before if it bothers them, and they all said they can't smell anything walking past my door.

As Pogofish said, you can vape sneakily so there is hardly any vapour to be seen. For some vapers, making great big clouds is part of the fun, so maybe asking your lodger to vape in his room if he wants to do that ould be a suitable compromise?

Hope the lodger is cool and the arrangement works out happily for you both!

terra_ferma

My OH is very much anti-smoking, but says my fruity e-cig liquids smell like air freshener and can I vape anywhere in the house without bothering anyone
there is no smoke, no bad smell lingering, no bad breath
from a landlord's point of view, no fire risk, brown staining on walls, bad smell, burnt marks on furniture and so on

pmduk

pogofish wrote: »

All the ingredients in e-cig fluids are common food ingredients, flavours/humectants, so if you serve food in the house, there is no difference in risk.

But have any of them been tested for ingestion into the lungs?