Why do council leave lights on outside

Southend1

sheffield_lad wrote: »

off topic ever so slightly but LED that's the future for both councils and homes. The difference in wattage is amazing.


Check out the range Ikea do which inc candle bulbs (clear), for £3 each. I have just replaced some GU10 50w bulbs with 3w versions 20,000 hrs live. Bargain again £3.

Agreed but to be fair 3w LED GU10s will come nowhere near the brightness of a 50w halogen. I just replaced 3 with osram 7w LEDs at £12.95 each (cheaper on amazon but out of stock at the moment) and they are not noticeably dimmer than the 50w halogens

blackbearbosin

My local council, along with many others I am sure, switch off the street lights from about Midnight to around 4am. This is, they say, to show how green they are with light pollution and dirty energy.
So we get more anti social crime, ( but not according to the 'reported' figures that are quoted by the police). The council is looking into LED's but say it will take a 10 year changeover period for it to be cost effective to change the bulbs!

amtrakuk

If their near residential places then I'm sure it will be for security we live in a blame culture If someone was mugged outside where they could have supplied lighting I'm sure the council will be sued and ordered to provide adequate lighting.

We had a power but a couple of weeks ago for an hour, it defiantly made you appreciate the small street light we got outside, the place was almost pitch black and it defiantly didn't look safe to go.

A previous member suggested LED is the future. Yes your right but they are still uneconomical. A 90 watt SON lantern and lamp will cost approx £50 (excluding wiring etc), the lamp will last approx 20,000 hours (or about 5 years) and will cost £10 to replace. LED is still a new kid on the block and yet to be proven technology as well as the up front costs being significantly higher than traditional methods of external lighting.

amtrakuk

blackbearbosin wrote: »

My local council, along with many others I am sure, switch off the street lights from about Midnight to around 4am. This is, they say, to show how green they are with light pollution and dirty energy.
So we get more anti social crime, ( but not according to the 'reported' figures that are quoted by the police). The council is looking into LED's but say it will take a 10 year changeover period for it to be cost effective to change the bulbs!

Yes we are having part time street lighting here in Leeds. Although I haven’t seen any figures of accidents or crime the but they seem to be switching off the odd one or two lamps on main roads away from housing areas. Laugh of it is there is a stretch of road with about 20-30 street lights that have been lit 24/4 for about 2 years - I told the council they ought to get the PFI company to get that sorted before they start switching off more lighting.

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amtrakuk wrote: »

If their near residential places then I'm sure it will be for security we live in a blame culture If someone was mugged outside where they could have supplied lighting I'm sure the council will be sued and ordered to provide adequate lighting.

We had a power but a couple of weeks ago for an hour, it defiantly made you appreciate the small street light we got outside, the place was almost pitch black and it defiantly didn't look safe to go.

A previous member suggested LED is the future. Yes your right but they are still uneconomical. A 90 watt SON lantern and lamp will cost approx £50 (excluding wiring etc), the lamp will last approx 20,000 hours (or about 5 years) and will cost £10 to replace. LED is still a new kid on the block and yet to be proven technology as well as the up front costs being significantly higher than traditional methods of external lighting.

But these lights are on 24/7 all through the summer months, what good are they doing on during the day in summer months when the sun is shinning.