Candle tubes/lighting question

lostinrates

Hoping some one can help me with this!

The light linked has 'candle tubes' or something which have bulbs concealed. What is this actually called?

I'd like to overhaul two old lights and rewire. Is it possible to get thinner 'candles' that do this? Where!?

http://www.wayfair.co.uk/Savoy-House-Olaf-6-Light-Chandelier-SE-1-05470-6-WD-SVH1235.html

Stevefromdonny

I don't know where you get that terminology from. "candle tubes" don't exist. But that light you (TWO GRAND?) linked to takes small edison screw cap 60w lamps.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=SES+60w&client=firefox-a&hs=3Hv&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EhwFU_-jG6OV7QayzoDACw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=630
You can get these lamps in CFL, LED and halogen, as well as two shapes, candle and golf ball.

If you're rewiring the fitting, you could fit G9 halogen fittings instead, these take small halogen capsules, from 10 watts to 60 watts each.

lostinrates

Stevefromdonny wrote: »

I don't know where you get that terminology from. "candle tubes" don't exist. But that light you (TWO GRAND?) linked to takes small edison screw cap 60w lamps.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=SES+60w&client=firefox-a&hs=3Hv&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EhwFU_-jG6OV7QayzoDACw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=630
You can get these lamps in CFL, LED and halogen, as well as two shapes, candle and golf ball.

If you're rewiring the fitting, you could fit G9 halogen fittings instead, these take small halogen capsules, from 10 watts to 60 watts each.

The term does seem to exist for the plastic bits on chandeliers, candle tubes/covers/sleeves are what I am finding them under on searches.

But my terminology is hesitant which is why I am asking so I can better search!

Thanks, off to look at your link. *

It is Not a cheap light, and was linked to show the effect I'd like to get if possible, but from what you are saying I am unsure it wil be possible on lights where the bit holding candles has more normal dimensions. Overhauling what I have seems a much better solution than paying two grand though. Especially as we need a lo
T of new lighting.


Still, its not as bad as the one I'd love to get a similar effect to in the kitchen. I shared a link on another thread. Its in priced, another MSEer called the sellers and its......24k:eek:. Its incredible how much some can spend on such things. Lucky them!

I'm happy to work on overhauling what I have for now I think.


* Bulb s are not what I was calling 'tubes' but rather the shade bits over the bulbs. On a more traditional chandelier these are what I am seeing called tubes/sleeves or covers. Some what like this link. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/kingschandelierservices/Candle-Tubes-Covers-sleeves-/_i.html?_fsub=2810460018


What would I be googling for for those sort of 'covers'/shades please?

lostinrates

Stevefromdonny is showing me the error in my naive ways though, of course bulb thoughts should probably come first.


Could an LED bulb work?


Um, do electricians rewire lights for people? .

muckybutt

lostinrates wrote: »

Hoping some one can help me with this!

The light linked has 'candle tubes' or something which have bulbs concealed. What is this actually called?

I'd like to overhaul two old lights and rewire. Is it possible to get thinner 'candles' that do this? Where!?

http://www.wayfair.co.uk/Savoy-House-Olaf-6-Light-Chandelier-SE-1-05470-6-WD-SVH1235.html

Here ya go http://www.lampsandlights.co.uk/candle.php

lostinrates

muckybutt wrote: »

Here ya go http://www.lampsandlights.co.uk/candle.php

Thanks. I have actually found lots like that, and even have some in plastic! (There are stunning ones on amazon too). But the ones in the picture I linked the light source sits BELOW the cover. I don't know what that sort of cover would be called or how to search for it without knowing what its called.


Bulbs aren't that pretty, it would be quite cool to lose them in to the 'candle'. Which is often what happens when I have candles on a high ledge anyway I notice!

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Thanks. I have actually found lots like that, and even have some in plastic! (There are stunning ones on amazon too). But the ones in the picture I linked the light source sits BELOW the cover. I don't know what that sort of cover would be called or how to search for it without knowing what its called.


Bulbs aren't that pretty, it would be quite cool to lose them in to the 'candle'. Which is often what happens when I have candles on a high ledge anyway I notice!

Have you seen those "flappy bits of fabric that make it look like real candles"?

As for your original question .... it's like a lot of the time you talk about posh housey things, I've NO idea what you mean

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Have you seen those "flappy bits of fabric that make it look like real candles"?

As for your original question .... it's like a lot of the time you talk about posh housey things, I've NO idea what you mean

I have not seen the flappy bits of fabric that make things look like real candles, no.


I don't know if I really know what I mean this time either pastures. But I really am fed up of looking at bulbs and seeing lights I DON'T like or cannot justify spending on or plain old cannot afford so the answer is to try and find out what I mean I think!

Sadly, even these wise and learned people don't seem to know what I mean!


I', staring to think my idea of table lamps and real candles from candelabra wasn't so nuts aesthetically , only I had the house wired wrong for that! I have wires for overheads now as well as lamps! :rotfl:

Ben84

If you can find some frosted glass cylinders they'd be good, better yet white frosted ones, as they resemble partially burnt down candles during use if the bulb is slightly inside and not too bright. Someone might even put the bulbs inside them at slightly varying heights and/or use slightly different wattage in each 'candle' to enhance the effect. I think it's the slight variations that look good with candles. I wouldn't personally go for flicker type bulbs however, they're exaggerated to the point of being distracting I find. Someone really needs to make a more realistic version that gently changes over long time periods with a very occasional flicker, as a real candle would.

There's also hollow candles, buy them or make them yourself. Looks great, it's the real thing after all, but it limits your bulb wattage a lot because of heat, and I don't find real wax stays nice for too long anyway. Gets kind of sticky and dusty, and that's without any heat being applied to it. With a bulb I suspect they'd last even less.

lostinrates

Ben84 wrote: »

If you can find some frosted glass cylinders they'd be good, better yet white frosted ones, as they resemble partially burnt down candles during use if the bulb is slightly inside and not too bright. Someone might even put the bulbs inside them at slightly varying heights and/or use slightly different wattage in each 'candle' to enhance the effect. I think it's the slight variations that look good with candles. I wouldn't personally go for flicker type bulbs however, they're exaggerated to the point of being distracting I find. Someone really needs to make a more realistic version that gently changes over long time periods with a very occasional flicker, as a real candle would.

There's also hollow candles, buy them or make them yourself. Looks great, it's the real thing after all, but it limits your bulb wattage a lot because of heat, and I don't find real wax stays nice for too long anyway. Gets kind of sticky and dusty, and that's without any heat being applied to it. With a bulb I suspect they'd last even less.

Glass cylinders sound worth looking into. Thank you. I love the idea of putting the light at subtly different heights!:T


Sticky, dusty wax seems a really poor idea. I agree there. I had thought earlier in my plans about cheering up plastic tubes/ sleeves with wrapping beeswax around them and decided myself my housekeeping not sufficient to make this remotely viable .



Hmm, Glass cylinders.

iaps

Yes, the shape = cylinder or fluted
From your link
Features:
Frame material: Wood, metal and glass
Aged vellum glass
Frame finish: Old barrel and copper
Accommodates: 6 x E14 60W bulbs
81 cm H x 76 cm W x 76 cm D, 11 kgs

I can imagine it provides a nice warm light.
You might search for cylinder/fluted aged vellum glass shades
http://www.houzz.com/photos/230472/Logan-6-Light-Chandelier-contemporary-chandeliers-

http://www.amazon.com/Murray-Feiss-F2564-Logan-Chandelier/dp/B0036D1WFU#productDetails

or replacement ones ?