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Confused by PCP finance

I'm new to car finance as I've always bought outright in the past.

Here's my confusion - what's the APR??

Car price 15737.00
deposit 5000.40
final value 6007.50
monthly payments 173.13 over 42 months (41 payments)

I've tried several online calculators, but I'm just not sure if the answer is right.

Can anyone help explain it to me?

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  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 14,038 Forumite
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    Do any of the calculators say 8.12%?
  • fishter
    fishter Posts: 17 Forumite
    8.12% has appeared in one or two calculations, alongside Effective Annual Rate (8.43%).
    I'm just looking for a number to compare to other finance solutions we're looking at.

    Thanks!
  • text
    text Posts: 8 Forumite
    using the online pcp calculator at pcpcal.co.uk the rate comes out at 8.12% Hope that helps
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,995 Forumite
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    Surely the numbers you really want are

    Price of car 15737.00

    deposit 5000.40
    final value 6007.50
    monthly payments 173.13 over 42 months (41 payments) 7098.33
    Total repayments 18106.23

    Overpayment 2369.23

    Works out at 15% of the original price that you pay over the top.


    Never understood APRs me, but I do understand how much it costs me.

    I always work out the total cost and compare that.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • geek1981
    geek1981 Posts: 184 Forumite
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    edited 21 February 2014 at 4:09PM
    I'm also confused with APR on a PCP and pcpcal is not accurate to what I've been quoted by dealer. Any other calculators please?

    Price £15344
    Deposit £5000
    Loan £10344
    GFV £7433.75
    Monthly £132.70 (36 months)


    what's the APR?
    cheers!
  • almillar
    almillar Posts: 8,621 Forumite
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    Overpayment 2369.23

    Works out at 15% of the original price that you pay over the top.
    This one is much easier to understand and is referred to as the 'flat' interest rate - it ignores the length of time the loan takes.
    Have some fun and work out the flat interest rate on your mortgage...
    APR is really difficult to work out, I think even Martin would need a calculator. Luckily there are plenty of calculators around. Here's one:
    http://money-saving-calculators.prudentminds.com/apr-calculator.html
    Loan amout you have above, it's the full price minus the deposit: £10,344.
    I get -19.9% on that calculator! Can someone check? I'm assuming 48 payments? If it's meant to be 19.9% you can do better with a straight loan, and possibly get a better price from the dealer for paying 'cash'.
    Anyway, understand that that deposit you're putting down is dead money. When you get to the end of the term, it has helped make the repayments low this time, but has now vanished into thin air, and your repayments this time will have a big bump.
  • geek1981
    geek1981 Posts: 184 Forumite
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    almillar wrote: »
    Luckily there are plenty of calculators around. Here's one:
    http://money-saving-calculators.prudentminds.com/apr-calculator.html

    This one was better and matches with dealers APR 6.8%

    cheers!
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