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Dropped Kerb - unusual question

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 17 February 2014 at 1:26AM
    As regards the H bar - as it's just 1 double drop kerb, it's one continuous H bar covering both drives.
    Then they are allowed to park in the gap in between where the kerbs are not flat (the white line means NOWT). Also unless this was London, they are allowed by most Councils to park across their own drive because some Councils (like Brighton) only enforce dropped kerbs outside houses, when the resident complains.

    You'd be best asking the Council or looking if dropped kerb parking rules are covered on the Council website or in a linked parking charter/policy.

    Your post reminds me of my road and a neighbour of mine who moaned my car was on their white line. I laughed & said summat like 'good luck with that because unless the car is on the flat part of your kerb then there is NO contravention, and I am not obstructing you'. People often think 'their' H bars means something when they don't; I expect it was just easier for the signs & lines people to paint one long line that's all, and of course they can use their own dropped kerb in most Council areas.
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  • flea72
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    The H bars have no restrictions, so anyone can park on them. The only technicality is the blocking of the driveway. But since the neighbour is blocking themselves in, then the likelihood of any traffic offence being noted is minimal.

    Why not just stop parking in your driveway and park across your entrance, or accept your car doesnt really fit on your drive, and park on the road instead
  • nicechap
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    kiddy_guy wrote: »
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    They are literally parking over about 4ft of the H-bar.

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    They are not blocking the pavement.........

    I'm probably being completely dense but I cannot visualise how they can be parking on their drive, then over 4ft of the H bar but not on the pavement, - unless they are parking on the road itself on their side of the boundary line (so to speak) of the H bar.

    If that's the case, the only recourse I'd suggest you have is to try a charm offensive or practice reversing onto it more. If you can reverse off it, it can be reversed onto. Getting out will be very easy then.
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  • Guys_Dad
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    Would your situation be helped if suitable yellow lines were painted on the road in front of your joint dropped kerbs?

    I can't believe that reasonable neighbours can't sort this out if each understands the other's point of view.
  • Coupon-mad
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    So far on this thread I am firmly on the side of the parking neighbour and can't see the OP's problem (sorry). The neighbour is doing nothing wrong and if the OP cannot manoeuvre out of a driveway backwards, they need to reverse in each evening - or park across their own H line.

    You can't stop a neighbour parking legitimately just because it makes your exit tight from your drive because you've driven in (if I am understanding the OP correctly).
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  • Guys_Dad
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    Twopoints, c-m.

    The first is that parking in front of a dropped kerb is, I believe, an offence (technically).

    The second is that in order for OP to get their car in diagonally, they have to come in at an angle and be driving over the roadway in front of the neighbour's dropped kerb which they can't do if a car is parked there.

    However, OP should consider the following. If the neighbour had not got a dropped kerb and it was only pavement, and they chose to park their car outside their house, could OP have any grounds for complaint? I think not. It is a problem of their car and lack of parking space designed into their house.

    The problem is that OP does not have sufficient space on their driveway to accommodate their car at right angles to the road. They can only use parking space by parking at a 45 degree angle and to get in at that angle, by the time their car is on the road, it is in front of their neighbour's property where a car is parked. Can't come in from other direction because of road sign. I have exactly the same situation on my property.

    I can get my car on my drive, but other half's car can only park at an angle next to mine because of depth in front of house. Luckily, she approaches that at an angle in front of my car and we don't have neighbour situation.

    That is why I say that reasonable neighbours should be able to resolve this.
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    edited 17 February 2014 at 8:45PM
    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    Twopoints, c-m.

    The first is that parking in front of a dropped kerb is, I believe, an offence (technically).
    As the neighbour parks in front of his own dropped kerb then there can be no offence.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/section/86 2nd exception
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  • Guys_Dad
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    Only if the local authority decide it is and then only if it is without the owners permission. As the neighbour parks in front of his own dropped kerb then there can be no offence.

    Thanks for the clarification.
  • specialboy
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    As the neighbour parks in front of his own dropped kerb then there can be no offence.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/section/86 2nd exception



    Thanks !!!!!! I have been trying to find this link for the OP with no success.
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