Orlistat? Alli?

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greensalad wrote: »

I've started running again and going to an aqua class with a friend next week. I don't think I'm too unfit (45 minute uphill walk to uni, walk around town a lot running errands and such and do a lot of outdoors stuff at the weekends.) But I guess every little helps and it'd be good to do some exercise alongside diet but I'm well aware that for me it's nearly all about what I eat.

Get some bodyweight exercises in there - push ups, squats etc.

And low fat diets are not the way forward IMO. Also, don't just go on the scales - go on your clothes size.

HBS x

cavework

Forget what comes out of the other end . Concentrate on what goes in the top end.
From experience ..eat smaller portions , use a side plate instead of a dinner plate for meals. Cut down on pasta, bread etc.. Drink loads of water and chew really slowly.
I'm not trying to patronise you as I have been in your position
.It's really hard
What I did was use a couple of cupa soups during the day (as many as you like to start with) even for breakfast to stave off any hunger pangs and ate a main balanced meal in the early evening.
Once the weight starts to shift you will find you don't want so much to eat .
I still use the cuppa soups when I am feeling hungry but have dropped nearly a stone in 3 weeks, plus because I can now bend down and tie my shoe laces I seem to want to walk further , move around more, be more active. Food is not that important anymore..although I still enjoy it
Obviously this is just me but the cuppa soup suppliments have stopped the mad cravings for snacks and give me enough energy during the day to function without a sugar craving..
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margaretclare

mumps wrote: »

Don't you just get the leakage if you eat too much fat? Well that is how a friend explained it to me, she said if she stuck to low fat she didn't have a problem.

It happened to DH after he'd eaten a banana one evening. As he's an insulin-using Type II diabetic, he sometimes needs a small snack in the evening.

How much fat is there in a banana?

margaretclare

cavework wrote: »

Forget what comes out of the other end . Concentrate on what goes in the top end.
From experience ..eat smaller portions , use a side plate instead of a dinner plate for meals. Cut down on pasta, bread etc.. Drink loads of water and chew really slowly.
I'm not trying to patronise you as I have been in your position
.It's really hard
What I did was use a couple of cupa soups during the day (as many as you like to start with) even for breakfast to stave off any hunger pangs and ate a main balanced meal in the early evening.
Once the weight starts to shift you will find you don't want so much to eat .
I still use the cuppa soups when I am feeling hungry but have dropped nearly a stone in 3 weeks, plus because I can now bend down and tie my shoe laces I seem to want to walk further , move around more, be more active. Food is not that important anymore..although I still enjoy it
Obviously this is just me but the cuppa soup suppliments have stopped the mad cravings for snacks and give me enough energy during the day to function without a sugar craving..
xxx

This is good advice. I agree, after a while you find you want less to eat. I no longer eat if I don't feel like it, I stop when I feel I've had enough. Luckily, DH is very supportive and there is no longer anyone around who'd say 'oh I made it specially for you' or 'aren't you going to try just a slice of that lovely chocolate cake' - we've all heard it!

I've never had any mad cravings for snacks because I grew up well before the 'snacking culture', which is now so prevalent, started.

The problem I have is that it is so difficult to lose weight in later life. This is known. There are physiological reasons why this is so.

I agree with 'chew really slowly'. This allows your stomach to register the sensation of 'full' and to send the message back to your brain. Some foods are so soft that they can be swallowed almost without noticing it.

I agree with using smaller plates. The pub at the end of our street advertises 'big plate specials'. We never go there! We also try to avoid going anywhere that advertises 'eat as much as you like'. Although, recently we went out to dinner with friends. I had one plateful of shredded beef and vegetables in the Chinese style - one plateful in the time someone sitting near us had 4 platefuls!

We've been experimenting with having lunch really late, what most people would call mid-afternoon, about 6 hours after a fairly good breakfast. Thereafter I don't usually have anything at all. We do like breakfast, boiled or scrambled egg with a slice of wholemeal toast, but many people don't want breakfast at all. It can be a question of trial and error, experimenting with what works and what suits your lifestyle.

Over time, I managed to lose 2 stone, which is a lot for me as I'm not tall. I'm still trying. Everyone is different.

mumps

margaretclare wrote: »

It happened to DH after he'd eaten a banana one evening. As he's an insulin-using Type II diabetic, he sometimes needs a small snack in the evening.

How much fat is there in a banana?

There is no need to be sarcastic.


http://www.patient.co.uk/medicine/Orlistat.htm This site states

If there is no fat in one of your meals or if you miss a meal, there is no need for you to take a dose of orlistat

So if your husbands "meal" was a banana perhaps you should ask him how much fat was in the banana.

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jacques_chirac

margaretclare wrote: »

It happened to DH after he'd eaten a banana one evening. As he's an insulin-using Type II diabetic, he sometimes needs a small snack in the evening.

How much fat is there in a banana?

It takes time for food to pass through your system. If he was unwell shortly after eating the banana, the likelihood is what was leaving his system was something eaten earlier in the day, or even before that.

OP, I asked my GP for Orlistat and took them for several months. I had no problems with side effects, but that would be because I was eating very little fat. Those that are having such bad side effects are clearly having too much of it and need to look at what they are taking in. In fact that is how my GP described Orlistat, it acts as an indicator that you have a poor diet.

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I ate very little fat - I still had leakage. If you are PASSING oil, regularly, it shows excess fat. If you leak it slowly, it can just be a side-effect apparently.

Plus as an ex-bulimic I should probably never have been prescribed it.

HBS x

terra_ferma

jacques_chirac wrote: »

It takes time for food to pass through your system. If he was unwell shortly after eating the banana, the likelihood is what was leaving his system was something eaten earlier in the day, or even before that.

OP, I asked my GP for Orlistat and took them for several months. I had no problems with side effects, but that would be because I was eating very little fat. Those that are having such bad side effects are clearly having too much of it and need to look at what they are taking in. In fact that is how my GP described Orlistat, it acts as an indicator that you have a poor diet.

low fat is not equal to a good diet, it's a myth and recent studies contradicts that,
you could eat a lot of low fat processed junk with low nutritional value, not causing leakage and still have a poor diet. On the other hand you could eat real food, like full fat milk, butter and even bacon and eat more healthily.

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Oh no not sure what to think now. Medication and illness and loss of mobility meant I put on 20kg in 3 months! I have managed to maintain this weight but not lose any.

Asked Gp to change my medication but all alternatives have weight gain as a side effect.

I have been following a low fat diet and been doing some swimming, but been told to stop that now after recurring ear infection. It's been making me depressed.

So today I've been given Orlistat, 3 a day but been told to start at 1 and build it up.

Will let you know how I get on