Childcare at 7.45am

meritaten

so you are looking for childcare at 7.45am. your OH cant do the school run because he leaves earlier. 8.00am is too late for breakfast club. but YOU are a teacher?
Have I missed something here? I would have thought that dropping your kids at breakfast club and getting to school for your own start would be ample time?

Spendless

meritaten wrote: »

so you are looking for childcare at 7.45am. your OH cant do the school run because he leaves earlier. 8.00am is too late for breakfast club. but YOU are a teacher?
Have I missed something here? I would have thought that dropping your kids at breakfast club and getting to school for your own start would be ample time?

Yes. It's due to the distance between kids school and the school OP teaches at.

bylromarha wrote: »

I am - and my school is a 40 minute drive from my kids school. Doors open at 8.40 for my class. Trying to set up a classroom for the day in 0 minutes is never going to happen. TAs are employed from 9am, so they can't do anything or be asked to be setting up. I can't arrive in my classroom when the kids do.

Already struggling with the thought I'm giving myself only 15 minutes pre class arrival to get ready for the day if I drop kids off at 7.45am. And still can't believe that the childminders I could use all start at 8am. I know at least 2 CMs which serve our school which go from 7am, so presumed that there would be around the kids school too.

Will investigate at the kids school office - we can't be the only family from the school where both parents need to be leaving for work at 7.45am. Its got 3 classes per year group - that's a lot of families!

suelizab wrote: »

From my understanding it is policy that ALL children are signed in for

breakfast club by an adult . This means that clubs may start at 8am but by

the time you queue and have signed your child in it may well be 8:15

before you are back in your car . Breakfast clubs do help parents who work

but were not initially set up for this, hence the starting time not flexible for
working parents.
There are issues for all working parents and it is them, not the children , ,that should take the responsibility and consequences . The majority of adults would think that these children are much too young to be alone this early AND out of area, and I would report a parent that i knew was doing this . Saying that, I would be furious if this parent was also a teacher . My thought would be that she was not fit to have her children and so why mine?

Mine WAS set up for working parents, as it's a childcare facility rather than a breakfast club manned by teaching staff and volunteers. This is probably why on threads on how much do they charge, I'm usually one of the highest at £4 against other peoples £1 or so. The plus side is it opens at 7.30am for the 51 weeks it's open.

Byl- Is it worth your husband going back yo his new employer and asking them to state how frequently his 7.30am starts will be? If your husband remains 'in charge' of when they are put in place, could they be sorted by only occurring when it's school hols?

Spendless

suelizab wrote: »

Also to add. I am very sensible and responsible but if/when I slip on ice, end up flat on my back side with a fractured coccyx or wrist and I'm crying , it will be because of the pain and not because mummy has left me all alone, strangers are approaching me, my sibling is also crying and I'm so ruddy frightened .

I mentioned earlier on that my DD tripped and hurt herself the other day on the way to school with friends. The difference I would say between what my DD did and the potential of it happening with the OPs children, is that it was 8.30 and their were loads of other adults on the school run. 2 stepped in when she fell, 1 to help her up, the other, a mum with a child in the same year who knows me slightly queried if I'd still be at home. Both could have stepped in to take charge of the situation. There's also 4 other girls walking with DD so collectively they may have come up with what they'd do next if there hadn't been adults about.

In the situation the OP describes, there is likely to be far less adults around and only her other child to decide what to do. The school isn't open, the breakfast club doesn't open for another 15 minutes, dependent on where the kids are on their journey. I live a shorter distance away from my youngests school and have a breakfast club that opens at 7.30 but pretty much the streets are dead until the school run gets into full swing.

sharnad

bylromarha wrote: »

If what happened at my school?

I have never known of any case in any school in the 2 counties I have worked in to have a child abducted off the street and dragged into a car. I have known of kids be flashed at when walking through alleyways.

However, 3 children throughout my school career have been killed in car crashes.

I have known of several more kids who have been systematically abused by relatives and people known to them.

As a teacher, I think the world has gone child protection mad and it is ridiculous that everyone is guilty until proven innocent with their DBS check. My old headteacher and I agreed that it has gone too far the other way. When did schools get to say that they knew the children better than the parents did?

There is no arbitary right age for this sort of stuff. I know of a 14 year old who cannot cope with crossing the road safely. He has to have an adult tell him when to cross as he's never been helped to make those speed judgements for himself and the mum insists he can't do it, and doesn't enable him to learn to do it "because he can't do it" So he never will.

A child got abjucted in a car a couple of weeks ago, she was 14 though. It was in East Sussex and they have Already arrested three men but they haven't found her yet

~Chameleon~

GobbledyGook wrote: »

It was tightened up because he should never have been in his job.

That 'may' have protected the two girls as it would hopefully have flagged up. However if he knew the girls through his partner it may not have.

Ian Huntley was never given a CRB check prior to being employed, hence why previous police contact was overlooked. His girlfriend was employed as a TA at the nearby primary school where the girls attended but only after they moved into the caretaker's house in the college grounds.

sharnad

GobbledyGook wrote: »

In all the time I've worked in schools (almost 10 years and as I did learning support I was in at least 3 schools a week) I've never known a single child be abducted by a stranger on their way to, or from school.

I know of at least a dozen abused by members of their family, one by the husband of a babysitter and another left home alone by their negligent mother.

Oh and one man whose van was attacked when he was suspected of being a you-know-what because he was seen 'hanging about' a school three days in a row. He was the boyfriend of a supply teacher whose car was in the garage.

I often wonder if its the fact that it was my parents who abused me and my father's family who utterly let me down that means I have a sensible (imo) sense of perspective when it comes to stranger danger. It baffles me that people are so over-protective and then whinge and moan when 12/13/16 year olds are incapable of doing things for themselves.

Anyway good luck OP. I hope you get it sorted.

There was a mine year old in October but luckily she got away

sharnad

GobbledyGook wrote: »

In all the time I've worked in schools (almost 10 years and as I did learning support I was in at least 3 schools a week) I've never known a single child be abducted by a stranger on their way to, or from school.

I know of at least a dozen abused by members of their family, one by the husband of a babysitter and another left home alone by their negligent mother.

Oh and one man whose van was attacked when he was suspected of being a you-know-what because he was seen 'hanging about' a school three days in a row. He was the boyfriend of a supply teacher whose car was in the garage.

I often wonder if its the fact that it was my parents who abused me and my father's family who utterly let me down that means I have a sensible (imo) sense of perspective when it comes to stranger danger. It baffles me that people are so over-protective and then whinge and moan when 12/13/16 year olds are incapable of doing things for themselves.

Anyway good luck OP. I hope you get it sorted.

Pact say there were 273 cases of child abduction by strangers in 11/12 and 223 cases where child knew but was not related to victim. Doesn't say how many were on way to school. Op maybe your kids school will allow th to be dropped off early and hang about if you can't find any other parents that go to the school early

sharnad

It says 181 kids were away from a parent or carer but 75% of attempts were unsuccessful

FBaby

I don't see how the issue with a child falling and hurting themselves as long as they are totally responsible with their mobile. They can call one of the parents who can call mum back. In 10 minutes, she can't have got too far.

We are extremely fortunate as parents to face the situation of letting our children be more independent at an age where they can have mobiles and therefore in contact with us at anytime. My son started to take the bus home alone at 9yo, but knowing he could contact me, or someone else trusted made a huge difference. Even the day that he forgot to take it and asked what he would have done if the bus had broken down, he calmly repeated my mobile number and said he would have asked the bus driver if he could have borrowed his to call me!

Spendless

FBaby wrote: »

I don't see how the issue with a child falling and hurting themselves as long as they are totally responsible with their mobile. They can call one of the parents who can call mum back. In 10 minutes, she can't have got too far.

We are extremely fortunate as parents to face the situation of letting our children be more independent at an age where they can have mobiles and therefore in contact with us at anytime. My son started to take the bus home alone at 9yo, but knowing he could contact me, or someone else trusted made a huge difference. Even the day that he forgot to take it and asked what he would have done if the bus had broken down, he calmly repeated my mobile number and said he would have asked the bus driver if he could have borrowed his to call me!

Mine aren't allowed to take a mobile phone to Primary school, so it would have to be kept secret in their bags. Being discovered would mean confiscation and parent asked not to let them bring in in future, which is why ringing me wouldn't be an option.

I didn't realise not all Primarys had this rule