I've been told to pretend I don't have any qualifications!!!

liney

Aspire, hope, try, want to get a wonderful job: yes.

Entitled to a wonderful job: no.

Print_Screen

The amount of times that I have be given given bad advice by the job centre are too many to count. This has involvd them denying services existed when they did and having my benefits stopped when they said everything was ok.

But anyway, I look to the job centre as a source of advice. Advice of what NOT to do. What ever they tell me I do the opposite and it seems to work. don't rely on them for jobs, go through agencies or look privately. Put you CV on Monster and you should get agencies contacting you (depending on what job your going for) but remember to refresh you CV every week as a lot of employers search CV's on Monster by date.

Look at the Job centre as a Wolf trying to give you advice on how to keep your sheep safe :rolleyes:

The most puzzling thing though, is how do people in the job centre get those jobs. It seems that a prerequisite is that you have to be incompetent!:eek:

someone

Print_Screen wrote: »

The most puzzling thing though, is how do people in the job centre get those jobs. It seems that a prerequisite is that you have to be incompetent!:eek:

They walk into the job centre and say "do you have any jobs" and the helpul lady says "sure, I can give you one now"

Ianna

andyrules wrote: »

Surely any qualification, relevant or not, is evidence that you:

a) are literate
b) can write a report/record information effectively
c) have communication skills
d) can learn new facts/concepts
e) are able to develop professionally/undertake additional training.
f) actually have an interest in work
etc

Aren't these all transferable skills or am I missing something?

Well, no it's not. You can do an arts course that is a mere 7 hours a week, cheat your way through it and get a good grade. Some degrees and other qualifications have reputations as being a long holiday and that may be what the OP is fighting against.

She said employers are no longer looking for high qualifications but are looking for practical experience. She said having a lot of qualifications will only hold you back.

I've been repeatedly told by employers that although my A-levels are great my degree is no use. I've lost out on more jobs than I can remember due to the degree. A lot of fields/employers do want relevant quals/experience only and aren't interested in anything else so this may be where this woman is coming from. As ever it depends what you've got and where you're applying.

Best of luck!

andyrules

Ianna wrote: »

I've been repeatedly told by employers that although my A-levels are great my degree is no use. I've lost out on more jobs than I can remember due to the degree. A lot of fields/employers do want relevant quals/experience only and aren't interested in anything else so this may be where this woman is coming from. As ever it depends what you've got and where you're applying.

Best of luck!

That's shocking! are you sure this is so? Only I am becoming fast disillusioned with the whole concept of a degree, unless it is something very specific like science for research for example.

andyrules

liney wrote: »

Aspire, hope, try, want to get a wonderful job: yes.

Entitled to a wonderful job: no.

where has 'entitled' been mentioned?

liney

In the post you origionally quoted, strangely enough.

regularsaver1

I don't understand why you should forget them

I do understand about the experience thing thought - its catch 22

regularsaver1

andyrules wrote: »

Surely any qualification, relevant or not, is evidence that you:

a) are literate
b) can write a report/record information effectively
c) have communication skills
d) can learn new facts/concepts
e) are able to develop professionally/undertake additional training.
f) actually have an interest in work
etc

Aren't these all transferable skills or am I missing something?

I agree - but on another thread someone said that if you got a 2:2 in a degree you have no brains or did not try, but if you have a 1st you really tried

regardless fo what you got its the skills and what you mentioned above being demonstrated

I don;t think your qualifications should be withdrawn from the CV

It didn;t make a difference when I had to do tests to join my employer, and they like experience, but still you worked for it

andyrules

liney wrote: »

In the post you origionally quoted, strangely enough.

sorry Liney, I didn't mean your post, I thought you meant either myself or Black Saturn had said grads are entitled to a job.

In reply - no, I don't think anyone is entitled, but surely the whole idea of doing the degree, spending time NOT getting experience, racking up a mortgage sized debt, working hard (and yes, while I know some don't stretch themselves, many others work their socks off), living a life of poverty for several years ...is to make yourself MORE employable than others. etc.
Otherwise - why?