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Owe too much tax

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  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Ok, net turnover 11/12 ~ 29k
    Net 12/13 ~ 32k

    Total I paid on jan 2012 ~ 8k
    Total paid today ~ 10.5k

    That's fine

    A) poa due jul 2014 I think was 3-4k. I thought it would be ~5.25k?

    B) I've been saving 1/3 gross earnings. But I've had to delve into savings for ~£500. Does this mean I've not put enough away?

    My logic is: 10.5k is all of 12/13 & first half of 13/14 (estimate). That first half takes me to oct 2013 (first 6months of the tax year).
    So I question, I shouldn't have had to use my savings as I should still have tax cash from November & December 2013 & jan 2014?

    Net turnover is NOT profit. Do you mean profit?
    Have you made any poa in jan & jul 2012 & 2013?
    What made you think you had to pay £10,500?
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • catoutthebag
    catoutthebag Posts: 2,216 Forumite
    zygurat789 wrote: »
    Net turnover is NOT profit. Do you mean profit?
    Have you made any poa in jan & jul 2012 & 2013?
    What made you think you had to pay £10,500?

    Yes profit
    Yep made poa on both those times (obviously increased now due to 3k higher profit in 12/13)
    That's what my calculation came out as on my return
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Yes profit
    Yep made poa on both those times (obviously increased now due to 3k higher profit in 12/13)
    That's what my calculation came out as on my return

    How much are the poas?
    Was your calculation the page which says that the payments on account have NOT been deducted.?
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • purdyoaten
    purdyoaten Posts: 1,159 Forumite
    Yes profit
    Yep made poa on both those times (obviously increased now due to 3k higher profit in 12/13)
    That's what my calculation came out as on my return

    You should be deducting the payments on account that made on account of 2012/13 tax year from the final liability for that year. It does say at the bottom of the calculation:

    This amount does not take into account any 2012-13 payments on account that you may have aleady made.

    For example - Total Income tax due 2012-13 £10000

    Payments on account 2012-13 made = £6000 - balance due £4000


    Payments on account due 2013/14 due £5000 each in January and July.
    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not. :doh:
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Do you have any other taxable income or are your £29K and £32K after you have deducted the personal allowance?
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • catoutthebag
    catoutthebag Posts: 2,216 Forumite
    Here's some numbers

    3150 paid jul 2012
    4470 jan 2013, inc 1230 balancing payment
    3241 jul 2013
    10,500 jan 2014

    Profit 29k 11/12, 32k 12/13
  • catoutthebag
    catoutthebag Posts: 2,216 Forumite
    zygurat789 wrote: »
    Do you have any other taxable income or are your £29K and £32K after you have deducted the personal allowance?

    No other income
    Expenses slightly higher 12:13, little higher personal pension too (4k total), expenses ~3k, harshly any bank tax/interest, £100 charity
  • catoutthebag
    catoutthebag Posts: 2,216 Forumite
    Tax, Slc, cl4 ni ~7.1k
    Poa for 13/14 ~3.6k
  • purdyoaten
    purdyoaten Posts: 1,159 Forumite
    edited 29 January 2014 at 4:27PM
    Here's some numbers

    3150 paid jul 2012
    4470 jan 2013, inc 1230 balancing payment
    3241 jul 2013
    10,500 jan 2014

    Profit 29k 11/12, 32k 12/13

    On those figures - assuming no other entries.

    Tax due 2012/13 - £4779
    Class 4 due - £2196
    Total payable - £6975 less payments on account made £6482 - balance due £493 on 31st January 2014.

    Payment on account 2013/14:

    31st January 2014 - £3987.50
    31st July 2014 - £3987.50.

    You should have paid £4480.50 this month.

    **You have posted since I started typing and it would appear that £32000 is approximate. You can clearly see the process and it does appear that you have not taken into account the payments on account that you made and have hugely overpaid.
    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not. :doh:
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Here's some numbers

    3150 paid jul 2012
    4470 jan 2013, inc 1230 balancing payment
    3241 jul 2013
    10,500 jan 2014

    Profit 29k 11/12, 32k 12/13
    So jan & jul 2012 paid on ac £6300
    Jan 2013 balancing payment £1230
    Total tax paid for 2011/12 £7530
    Jan & jul 2013 paid on account £6482
    Jan 2014 balancing payment £????? (you haven't said)
    Total tax paid for 2012/13 £ You'll have to do the maths.

    Have you gone back and read the page with the calculation on it?
    The only thing that is constant is change.
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