IPC appeal PCN NW Limited

Kc85

Hi

I have been reading through the forums and parking cowboys but I am still confused! I received a Parking notice from PCN NW ltd on the cinema car park in St.Helens before Christmas. I appealed and it was rejected, the rejection letter states that I should appeal to the IPC but most of the forums talk about a POPLA code and appealing that way. I also note that the IPC are the same address as Gladstones Solicitors who from the looks of it is who PCN use to pursue people. Do I appeal to the IPC or go back and ask for a POPLA code and complain to the BPA?

It seems this Company isn't genuine but I don't know what the next steps should be in terms of appeals/ complaints or even to ignore, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Redx

if they are indeed IPC then the BPA and POPLA have nothing to do with it

the IPC is fairly new so little is known as yet

read this thread for advice on tickets etc https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

Stroma

You need to appeal on whatever address they have given you. FYI you are correct gladstones , IPC and a parking company all share the same address - so no conflict of interest then ??

Also they try and intimidate people by making complaints to mse about myself and others, because we point out that gladstones and the IPC share a director, this is public information but they don't like it becoming common knowledge

Kc85

Thanks Redx I have that link saved and have been reading through I have found some good POPLA appeal letters but no IPC appeal letters, it is a really good link though.

Thanks Stroma I noticed that too which made me wonder if it was worth writing an appeal to the IPC as it doesn't seem legit how can the decision be made impartially if they are all linked! I don't want to pay the fine as it appears this Company isn't registered with the BPA. The barriers wasn't even down on the car park preventing entry so if you enter via that way you do not see the sign that states the times you can park etc as that is facing pizza hut so if you don't enter that way which in theory should be the only way you can enter you don't see it!!!

Sorry to hear that they have tried to intimidate you, guess it just shows they have something to hide. How can they be allowed to operate in this manner!

Stroma

You need to understand something, this company is not affiliated with the bpa, the IPC are a competing organisation that does the same thing as the bpa. Forget completely the bpa and popla as this has nothing to do with either!

But use the same appeal points you see in popla threads, use the wording only and post it up here before posting it on

Redx

I dont think you understand what is going on here, there isnt just the BPA, but the BPA is the main player in this, with POPLA

this IPC is set up as an alternative AOS and your PPC is part of the alternative IPC, so you will have to deal with it or face the consequences , like possible court action which is true of any parking charge

and it is a parking charge, not a fine, its not a fine as neither a court nor a judge has issued it

no you wont find any IPC appeals there due to it being so new, but the facts are relevant no matter how it is adjudicated or by whom it is adjudicated

the fact is that you will need to appeal this to the IPC, as the "guinea pig" , the "pathfinder" , the first one of many we expect to see in the coming months

maybe you will be the first, we dont know , there may be loads of questions we cannot answer due to it being so new

but being "new" doesnt mean its not legit, they are on the DVLA register and are an alternative setup compared to the BPA, but dont treat them any less just because they are the "new kid on the block"

I repeat what I said earlier , for clarity

if they are indeed IPC then the BPA and POPLA have nothing to do with it

the IPC is fairly new so little is known as yet

Kc85

Oh ok, sorry it is all very confusing and I get a bit lost with it all!

Ok so I am currently writing an appeal using the POPLA letters from the link, so I guess I submit that and see what happens. I didn't realise they was on the DVLA register.

Would you advise that I also include my original appeal letter to PCN NW that was rejected?

spacey2012

We think the appeals desk has been turned around now so they are not facing the nasty letters desk, hence the conflict of interest has been resolved.

If they were to try court, you should suggest they make use of in independent arbitration (conflict resolution) pointing out the one they recommend is a bit Whiffy.

Stroma

So you understand that this is what was posted on this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4835260

Stroma wrote: »

And lets face facts here, you are all linked aren't you? and all I said that you are, and here is public information just confirming that. Explain then?

The Independent Parking Committee
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08248531
4 THE STABLES,
RED COW YARD,
KNUTSFORD,
WA16 6DG

GLADSTONES SOLICITORS LIMITED
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07535449
UNIT 1,
THE STABLES,
RED COW YARD,
KNUTSFORD,
CHESHIRE,
WA16 6DG

Who's a director of them all?
JOHN LLEWELLYN GLADSTONE DAVIES
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911040951

Not a director of these, but take a look at the addresses, see something in common?

PARKSHIELD COLLECTION LTD
UNIT 3 THE STABLES
RED COW YARD
KNUTSFORD
CHESHIRE
WA16 6DG

spacey2012

The reason he got all shirty is this site is very high up google rankings.
Would you employ a solicitor to do anything that was embroiled in fake parking tickets.
Yeah trust him with my Will...

4consumerrights

Kc85 wrote: »

Hi

I appealed and it was rejected, the rejection letter states that I should appeal to the IPC

Thanks in advance

Read some of the showthreads regarding IPC including these:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4859061

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4852695

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4784430

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4784908


Kc85 - did you appeal a windscreen ticket or the NtK?

When they rejected the appeal they should have supplied a URN for appealing . Appeals to the IPC must be made within 21 days from the rejection notice.

What was the alleged contravention?


Are the signs like these on this thread post 31:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4779806