Same employer but company re-organises. T's & C's changing - Where do we stand?

ohreally

Babbler wrote: »

I'm afraid Im not sure which union it is... think it may be UNISON...

Monday morning, get a membership form completed, unless you have a compelling reason not to do so.

Babbler

Luvly.cuppa.T wrote: »

I can't understand how this is not TUPE transferred as you are in the same position etc etc. I thought all companies that there were bought out, amalgamated etc came under it?
From what I remember talking to acas on this if the offers are worse in the new contract you need to write a grievance and go through that process, although I do know that there does come a time when the company can fire and rehire you. This means that you will also lose your time acrued there as an employer, and you may need this further on in the line for example redundancies and any legal battles, for which you sometimes need a years employment.
It does get messy this one though and it really does seem unfair.
All the best with it.

I think the reason they gave for not being "TUPE" was that the company has not been "bought out". Its still the same company. Just a re-organisation which lead to this...

I believe the Unions have deemed the offer illigal and may have accepted but will persue the issue fuirther. No official news as yet though...

Luvly.cuppa.T

Oo-oo-oo, something else that came to me, from ACAS, you can write in (aka grievance) that you do not agree to the new T&C's and state that you are working under - bums,I cannot think of the correct phrase- something like working under conflict, basically you will carry on working but not agree etc etc.

This is a good way for those who have under a years employment, but are only a couple of months short, as by the time the grievance and appeal etc have been dealt with and they are still denied , let's say, they are more then likely to have accrued their years service. This then means that they can apply for constructive dismissal, which means that they leave due to the companys fault etc etc- can't seem to word that properly neither.....