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  • I will let you know what happens :-)
  • Icequeen99
    Icequeen99 Posts: 3,775 Forumite
    martindow wrote: »
    Are you sure? This looks like examples of carrying losses forward within the business. I can't see any reference to setting it off against PAYE income.

    Yes you can do this. It is called 'sideways' loss relief. You don't have to, you could choose to carry it forward against profits from the same business.

    See this helpsheet which explains each of the ways you can relieve a loss - the first one is what the OP has done and set it against his other income for the same tax year.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/helpsheets/hs227.pdf

    IQ
  • purdyoaten
    purdyoaten Posts: 1,159 Forumite
    martindow wrote: »
    Are you sure? This looks like examples of carrying losses forward within the business. I can't see any reference to setting it off against PAYE income.

    You have the option to set losses against total income from all sources including capital gains in that year.

    There are other ways to relieve losses, possibly beyond the scope of the question.

    If the loss cannot be relieved in this way it will be carried forwrad to future profits FROM THE SAME TRADE.
    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not. :doh:
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    I am pretty sure as a sole trader you can claim it against PAYE, not really looked at this for a while and the amount limits involved but in short its means you tax code is increased so you can earn that amount extra tax free I believe.

    Personally I had this option in year one and I just carried the loss forward
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • purdyoaten
    purdyoaten Posts: 1,159 Forumite
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I am pretty sure as a sole trader you can claim it against PAYE, not really looked at this for a while and the amount limits involved but in short its means you tax code is increased so you can earn that amount extra tax free I believe.

    Personally I had this option in year one and I just carried the loss forward

    Absolutely not and could not be more incorrect! Losses are set against taxable income. For example a loss at self-employment of £1000 can be relieved against PAYE but full relief would only be obtained if £1000 of income was taxed! If you have paid no tax at PAYE the loss is unrelievable and should be carried forward.
    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who do not. :doh:
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    purdyoaten wrote: »
    Absolutely not and could not be more incorrect! Losses are set against taxable income. For example a loss at self-employment of £1000 can be relieved against PAYE but full relief would only be obtained if £1000 of income was taxed! If you have paid no tax at PAYE the loss is unrelievable and should be carried forward.

    Thats a better answer to what I meant.

    Without knowing the income from the full time job and the full extent of the loss made its hard to make the call, but to keep it simple if you believe you will make a profit going forward just carry it forward.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    martindow wrote: »
    Are you sure? This looks like examples of carrying losses forward within the business. I can't see any reference to setting it off against PAYE income.

    Yes, its legal and it works.

    I've just done it with my business. I work full time and my part time business made a small loss.

    Refund is coming back to me from HMRC. They've let me know by letter its being processed.
  • Just a quick update to let you all know that I received my cheque in the post today, thanks to everyone who helped
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