Why were my JSA and Housing benefit claims rejected?

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  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    I can't believe the attitude of some people on this forum. Truly despicable. I feel ashamed to call myself British at times.

    Why because we don't believe that anyone can survive on £530 a month for 6 years with a child. I'd say the same about any nationality. Who choses to live on such low funds and subject their child to such poverty. Getting a job (they get CTC and so would get tax credits) would be the very first thing to do.

    Sorry but I'm not taking the OP seriously there have been too many threads started by people with such wild claims recently. It doesn't make any sense why anyone would stay in such poverty for that number of years as a parent, you wouldn't put your child through it. Even allowing for a minimal existence £530 to pay all bills for that many years isn't doable. Of course they also managed to save for a solicitor too. Doesn't add up.
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  • ~Chameleon~
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    bloolagoon wrote: »
    Why because we don't believe that anyone can survive on £530 a month for 6 years with a child. I'd say the same about any nationality. Who choses to live on such low funds and subject their child to such poverty. Getting a job (they get CTC and so would get tax credits) would be the very first thing to do.

    Why is that so hard to believe? Many people living in poverty live on even less in this country. The £530 per month isn't fixed in stone either as it depends how much maintenance the OP receives from the child's father...
    I have been receiving the Child Benefit and Child Tax Credit, and whatever his dad throws as maintenance at the end of the month. So you add it all up, is something like £530 a month

    She also stated she gets help from her parents with her CT bill...
    The council bill comes once a year and if I need a top up, my parents will transfer me what i need from home just so I can pay it.

    And I should imagine if she was really in desperate need then either the child's father or her parents would help her out financially. I think the OP should be applauded at how well she's coped not berated and branded a liar!

    When you consider how poor people are in some of Eastern Europe then £530 per month could be considered quite affluent. Just because you don't share that knowledge and/or experience doesn't make it any less a fact.
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  • Morglin
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    As you have already established your right to benefits I assume (child benefit for your child), then this decision seems odd.

    Housing Allowance is paid purely on income, and as you have long held a right to reside, I am not sure why this isn't being paid at all.

    Many single parents claim for looking after a child, who have never worked, so this decision also seems odd. The wait to claim for new arrivals wouldn't apply to you.

    I would go to the nearest CAB, who should be able to clarify the decision with the DWP for you, and also advise what would be the best things to claim.

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  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2014 at 5:20PM
    Poppie68 wrote: »

    Just a little baffled why you seem to think the OP is a better parent than the English!

    He/she ran out of tomato sauce for their chips?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • bloolagoon wrote: »
    Sorry but I'm not taking the OP seriously there have been too many threads started by people with such wild claims recently.

    That's what I thought too. They didn't even check to see the date that Bulgaria entered the EU, as they said they worked in 2006.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2014 at 5:49PM
    Morglin wrote: »
    As you have already established your right to benefits I assume (child benefit for your child), then this decision seems odd.

    If the OPs story is true, then HMRC have made an error.

    It wouldn't be the first time for this error from HMRC either. The immigration threads are littered with people with 'no recouse to public funds' being given Child Benefit in error; or being given the second adult element of WTC in error (as one partner is subject to immigration control and they have no children - that rule changed in 2010).
    Morglin wrote: »
    Housing Allowance is paid purely on income, and as you have long held a right to reside, I am not sure why this isn't being paid at all.

    How has she "long held a right to reside"? Look at the link and quote in post 29. There were diffferent rules for A2 nationals AND she said she came to the UK and worked in 2006 (before her country joined the EU). Even if she got that date wrong and it was 2007, A2s had to have a work permit and be working for those first 12 months to be allowed to remain in the UK and to be able to claim benefits from the UK: the OP said she only worked 9 months.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    That's what I thought too. They didn't even check to see the date that Bulgaria entered the EU, as they said they worked in 2006.

    Exactly - that's my first thought plus all the provocative language from the first post baiting and illogical figures. Being moral raising a UK citizen, at the same time (both threads) as the trolls are out.
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  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2014 at 6:01PM
    bloolagoon wrote: »
    Exactly - that's my first thought plus all the provocative language from the first post baiting and illogical figures. Being moral raising a UK citizen, at the same time (both threads) as the trolls are out.

    Someone said on another board, that lots of the latest troll posters on this site, have a fish/seafood type username. Didn't Stingray have aqua marina?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • ~Chameleon~
    ~Chameleon~ Posts: 11,956 Forumite
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    How has she "long held a right to reside"? Look at the link and quote in post 29. There were diffferent rules for A2 nationals AND she said she came to the UK and worked in 2006 (before her country joined the EU). Even if she got that date wrong and it was 2007, A2s had to have a work permit and be working for those first 12 months to be allowed to remain in the UK and to be able to claim benefits from the UK: the OP said she only worked 9 months.

    And if her ex-partner is a British Citizen? And was supporting her financially?
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  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2014 at 6:12PM
    And if her ex-partner is a British Citizen? And was supporting her financially?

    Her ex partner has to be a British citizen for the OP to have a child that is a British citizen. Just being born in the UK, doesn't make that person British. That was stopped in 1983.

    If she was married to a brit or lived with a Brit (akin to marriage) for 2 years, then she would have had to enter on a UKBA spouse visa and would have had ILR after 2 years (2008) and become a British citizen in 2009. Bulgarians could not just come and live in the UK, not work and claim CB and CTC, until 1 January 2014.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


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