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Conservatory temperature piece of mind please.

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  • Mojisola wrote: »
    No, we had our suspended floors changed to solid floors and all the floors had an insulation layer put in, even the areas without underfloor heating. It's made an enormous difference to the comfort levels in the house.

    Ok I'm with you now you mean ideally. It's not a requirement as electric can go on a screed or concrete as an after fit.


    Out of interest is it expensive to run as a primary source of heating?
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    We've only got underfloor heating in the kitchen and have it timed so it's only for a couple of hours a day. No idea about costs over a big area - I would expect it to be expensive. Ours warms the floor but I don't think it would ever make the room feel warm.
  • jamski07
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    The link posted a while back showing the roll of the heating cable looks like what will be used.

    I dunno, very confused about it all now!
  • andrewf75
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    edited 17 January 2014 at 4:06PM
    jamski07 wrote: »
    I'm no expert but have done enough research to have a basic understanding, and my understanding is it's the amount of glass v's brick that constitutes weather it's a conservatory or not.

    All 3 companies have agreed to remove them too.

    Ok its a conservatory because its mostly glass, but its also going to be built to the standards of a proper extension - in which case how is it different to the full extension that you're not allowed to build? If its properly part of the house then surely it is a proper extension and will add the value that you say you're not supposed to add.

    This is what I don't understand...

    We're about to get an extension built with a large glass area so I'm sharing some of your concerns re argon filled glass etc
  • Have they given you a breakdown of costs?

    A conservatory of that size is about 8k so an extra 6 for a glass roof and heating sounds expensive.
  • Don't even consider a conservatory, they are glass boxes that are either too hot or too cold. A sun room where the glass to wall ratio is no greater than 30% would be the better choice and add real value to your home. Best advise is to forget your thought about a greenhouse otherwise you will live to regret.
  • jamski07
    jamski07 Posts: 88 Forumite
    andrewf75 wrote: »
    Ok its a conservatory because its mostly glass, but its also going to be built to the standards of a proper extension - in which case how is it different to the full extension that you're not allowed to build? If its properly part of the house then surely it is a proper extension and will add the value that you say you're not supposed to add.

    This is what I don't understand...

    We're about to get an extension built with a large glass area so I'm sharing some of your concerns re argon filled glass etc

    Well, maybe I'll run it past them, but I fear it may be one of those silly rules. They will deem a proper extension to add more value than what we are proposing.
    Have they given you a breakdown of costs?

    A conservatory of that size is about 8k so an extra 6 for a glass roof and heating sounds expensive.

    Well that's the first of 3 quotes, and less than we were expecting to be honest. Not often that happens! Is there much regional variation in prices for this sort of thing??
  • Who was your quote from?
  • andrewf75
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    jamski07 wrote: »
    Well, maybe I'll run it past them, but I fear it may be one of those silly rules. They will deem a proper extension to add more value than what we are proposing.

    It would be a silly rule because the only reason a conservatory doesn't add as much value as an extension is because its not built to the same insulation standards as the house. Anyone valuing the house would treat yours as an extension not a conservatory. The fact that it has a high glass area is irrelevant.
  • jamski07 wrote: »
    We have specced (I think) a high spec, with argon filled double glazing and the same for the roof
    Argon is better than standard double glazing, but still will be 5-6 times as much heat lost in winter per area (and 5-6 times as much heat gained in summer) than a non-glazed roof or wall. So it's going to feel colder in winter and hotter in summer than a room with normal areas of glazing.
    jamski07 wrote: »
    Also have underfloor electric heating with its own timed thermostat. This is laid beneath a screed that absorbs the heat so acts a bit like a storage heater and stays warm after the heating has switched off.
    But also takes longer to heat up as the screed has to be heated up before heat reaches the room...
    jamski07 wrote: »
    We want to remove the door and window from the kitchen to open things up but my worry is the heat/cold, but have been told it will all be fine as it's all high-spec glass. We're happy to add blinds and also a convector heater too if needed.
    And as soon as you do this it becomes a 'proper extension' under Building Regulations. The installers should not be removing the door and window for you. But Building Regs aside, if you remove the door and window the adjacent rooms will be colder in winter and hotter in summer.
    jamski07 wrote: »
    My wife is the opposite of me and not worried at all, but I don't want it to screw up the whole house making things really hot or cold.
    So just carefully remove the door and window and store them if you must do it - if it's really bad then put them back in.
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