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WTC 30hour element

I have done a benefits check on entitledto.com.

I tried putting 30hrs and it came out at £83.75 WTC

Then I theid putting 16 hrs and it still came out at £83.75

I thought you get a little extra for working 30hrs?

Comments

  • Sometimes the calculators can be a nuisance.

    There is an extra element on working tax credit for doing over 30hrs but you'll also have an increase in income.

    What is your situation? Do you have children/disabilities? Do you live with a partner?


    Yes partner and 2 kids. No disabilities.

    How can I find the truth? If this benefit calculator can not be relied upon are there better ones?

    I tried turntous and it came out exactly the same?
  • BigAunty
    BigAunty Posts: 8,310 Forumite
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    In your situation, you are obliged to work at least 24 hours between you,with one parent doing at least 16 hours of it to qualify for WTC.

    That calculator has a good reputation but if you are just diddling about with random figures and modelling fictitious scenarios,then it is going to appear to be illogical.

    But why do you think that someone with higher employment income would get higher WTC?! It's supposed to top up income not incentivise a person to work short hours and then claim the difference.30 hours is the WTC threshold for a single person without dependents - they don't get to work 16 or 24 hours and then put their feet up for the rest of the week, they are encouraged to work full time because they have no commitments. If a single person could get a big wodge of benefits from working part time,they'd all do it.
  • Satoshi
    Satoshi Posts: 253 Forumite
    If you are a single parent you only need to do 16hrs but if you are a couple and one of you only works 16hrs you would get less than a couple with one of you working 30hrs with the same wage.

    so that calculator must be wrong, you should get more WTC working 30hrs than 16 if your income is the same.
  • RICK..._2
    RICK..._2 Posts: 469 Forumite
    edited 17 January 2014 at 12:41PM
    This one is better for tax credits....

    http://taxcredits.hmrc.gov.uk/Qualify/DIQHousehold.aspx
    This thread has me so pumped, I headbutted my dog and we both screamed.
  • Satoshi
    Satoshi Posts: 253 Forumite
    Working Tax Credit

    - Single claimants with children must work 16 hours per week or more.
    or
    - Joint claimants with children must work a combined 24 hours per week with one claimant working at least 16 hours.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who do not have children must work 30 hours per week or more and be aged 25 or over and are not disabled.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who are disabled must work 16 hours per week or more.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who are aged 60 or over must work 16 hours per week or more
  • M.Johnson_2
    M.Johnson_2 Posts: 124 Forumite
    edited 18 January 2014 at 12:14PM
    Satoshi wrote: »
    Working Tax Credit

    - Single claimants with children must work 16 hours per week or more.
    or
    - Joint claimants with children must work a combined 24 hours per week with one claimant working at least 16 hours.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who do not have children must work 30 hours per week or more and be aged 25 or over and are not disabled.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who are disabled must work 16 hours per week or more.
    or
    - Claimant(s) who are aged 60 or over must work 16 hours per week or more


    Thanks all.

    So are the calculators wrong when they say its the same for over or under 30hrs?

    For example we have children and say my wife works 16hrs, if either myself or her work another 13hr which would make 29hr week, or if one of us worked another 14hrs which would make 30hrs per week, and the earning were exactly the same?

    Is the 30hr element still being added on or are the benefits calculators right that it has been done away with?

    I know a couple with children has to work 24hrs min to get WTC but if the income is exactly the same for working 24hrs, would they get a little extra WTC if they worked 30hrs?

    How will things change on UC?
  • Satoshi
    Satoshi Posts: 253 Forumite
    There is an additional element for working over 30hrs.

    Is it 30 or more or 31 or more?
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