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Being forced to work weekends and extra hours for no pay!

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  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
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    edited 12 January 2014 at 9:28PM
    I knew all that Dave but that isn't what you put is it, a union cannot tout for business on others premises without permission. Nothing to stop other employees who are members talking to non members I agree.

    Getting a union to come down where they are not recognised and there is no legal requirement is a sure fire way to get them kicked of the premises
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • ossie
    ossie Posts: 354 Forumite
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    Been there seen that done it. Time to look at job market and vote with your feet is the only way!
  • patman99
    patman99 Posts: 8,532 Forumite
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    I would suggest contacting HMRC to make an anonymous tip off. They will act.
    Never Knowingly Understood.

    Member #1 of £1,000 challenge - £13.74/ £1000 (that's 1.374%)

    3-6 month EF £0/£3600 (that's 0 days worth)

  • Southend1
    Southend1 Posts: 3,362 Forumite
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    I knew all that Dave but that isn't what you put is it, a union cannot tout for business on others premises without permission. Nothing to stop other employees who are members talking to non members I agree.

    Getting a union to come down where they are not recognised and there is no legal requirement is a sure fire way to get them kicked of the premises

    Who is the union?

    The staff are the union. It's not about touting for business.

    So while a full time officer may not be welcome, there's nothing stopping active staff from talking to non members, as you say. And that's the most effective way of recruiting members.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    patman99 wrote: »
    I would suggest contacting HMRC to make an anonymous tip off. They will act.

    Act to do what? I haven't seen anything posted to suggest the employer is doing anything to break the law, now we have established that pay is above NMW.
  • annie123
    annie123 Posts: 4,256 Forumite
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    pmel64 wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply. It is a bit difficult to work out how many hours he has done over and above but put that way it isn't under the NMW assuming a 60 hour week (But not far off it)! Thankfully the ones on NMW do at least get paid OT for every hour they work.

    Your hubby is lucky, I used to have to do up to 2 hours per day with nothing extra or time off, the benefit was I got to keep my job!
    But if new employees are doing the same job but with a different pay structure this is where he might have some leverage.
    Someone more knowledgeable than me, will hopefully come along and advise.

    http://www.unison.org.uk/get-help/help-with-problems-at-work/pay-and-pensions/equal-pay/your-rights/
  • pmel64
    pmel64 Posts: 13 Forumite
    annie123 wrote: »
    Your hubby is lucky, I used to have to do up to 2 hours per day with nothing extra or time off, the benefit was I got to keep my job!
    But if new employees are doing the same job but with a different pay structure this is where he might have some leverage.
    Someone more knowledgeable than me, will hopefully come along and advise.

    http://www.unison.org.uk/get-help/help-with-problems-at-work/pay-and-pensions/equal-pay/your-rights/

    Lucky? So sorry to react to your comment but are you working 7 days a week with 2 to 3 hours added on the week days and then at the weekend up to 8 hours a day non-stop? Also the time off - he can't actually take it off because the company are too busy to let him and the supposed bank hours (because of year end) have gone towards when he eventually leaves (remember I also said he has to give 90 days notice to terminate his contract). He is off for a couple of days next week - dental appointment & a problem with the car but is using holidays up (minimum holiday entitlement so has to use up) but will most likely still have to go in at the weekend to make up for the time he is off.

    Anyway - just to say a big thank you for all your replies. It looks like because of the NMW he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He just has to learn to say no but it is hard in the environment he works in and it won't happen. More likely that he will be carried out of there on a stretcher.

    I had also done a calculation that in this busy period the staff on the NMW with the equivalent amount of hours worked are probably taking home the same amount. Amazing how life turns out!

    Thanks once again. :)
  • with a few exceptions, opt out agreements have to be voluntary. a worker
    who has previously signed such an arrangement is entitled to cancel it, after
    giving notice. The Gov.uk website has information about it here

    https://www.gov.uk/maximum-weekly-working-hours
  • patman99
    patman99 Posts: 8,532 Forumite
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    Even if you opt-out of the 48-hour week I believe that over a certain period (I think from my days in the Union it was 6 months) your hours must average less than 48 per week anyway.
    Never Knowingly Understood.

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    3-6 month EF £0/£3600 (that's 0 days worth)

  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Order him to start looking for another job.
    Be happy...;)
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