MSE News: Thousands of tenants to get bedroom tax rebate

MissMoneypenny

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

And in the case of joint custody where neither parent qualifies for an extra room? The children have no room to call their own in either home?

Benefits will only be paid to one parent and the children will have a bedroom to "call their own" in their main home.

Many children of home owners, don't have their own bedroom as they share with siblings until they leave home. I should imagine it is the same with renters who don't claim Housing Benefit too.

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Not everyone claiming HB is unemployed.

I didn't realise there were so many NRP (Non Resident Parents) given social housing when their relationship finished. If the non resident parent is claiming Housing Benefit, then they aren't working enough hours to look after themselves (or their children). They are getting a bedroom and food from the welfare state, but if they want an extra bedroom/s, they they will have to fund that extra rent themselves.


Those in private rentals and claiming Housing Benefit accept they can't have an extra bedroom paid for by the welfare state for they have people to stay, so why can't you?

~Chameleon~

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

If the non resident parent is claiming Housing Benefit, then they aren't working enough hours to look after themselves (or their children).

And if they're ill or disabled?

Everything is such black & white thinking for you lot!

princessdon

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

And in the case of joint custody where neither parent qualifies for an extra room? The children have no room to call their own in either home?

Not everyone claiming HB is unemployed.

if joint custody parents don't get the HB it's because they earn over 60,000 as CB is the requisite for HB rooms. Can't see anyone getting HB on that money.

custardy

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

And if they're ill or disabled?

Everything is such black & white thinking for you lot!

You seem to have an answer for every possible scenario
So in short people should be entitled to as many bedrooms as they like?
shall we just shunt the retirement age to 80 now and ensure only those not working make it?

~Chameleon~

custardy wrote: »

You seem to have an answer for every possible scenario
So in short people should be entitled to as many bedrooms as they like?
shall we just shunt the retirement age to 80 now and ensure only those not working make it?

No, I'm pointing out that there are those who slip through the net for whatever reason and I don't make broad assumptions about those who claim benefits as many people here do. As I said, nothing in this world is black and white.

And where have I ever said people should be entitled to as many bedrooms as they like? So much hyperbole amongst posters on this forum!

jacques_chirac

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

No, I'm pointing out that there are those who slip through the net for whatever reason and I don't make broad assumptions about those who claim benefits as many people here do. As I said, nothing in this world is black and white.

And where have I ever said people should be entitled to as many bedrooms as they like? So much hyperbole amongst posters on this forum!

You're trying to sensationalise the issue, and failing miserably. The people that you claim are going to be hit hardest are either a) well taken care of by the welfare state, or b) have a want as opposed to a need.

mojos.revenge

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Have you not been checking and bidding on properties yourself?

Of course, but the only places available are on troubled estates or in tower blocks, I have a disabled adapted house, but my carer is my husband but we do not qualify for him having a room of his own.
Whilst I expect people will say that I should take anything smaller to avoid living in a property that I don't need, after 30 years in a nice area with helpful and trusted neighbours, I am not about to give it all up to move to a flat with lifts smelling of urine and drug dealers patroling the area at night. I don't think anyone would.
Although I am not happy about paying the extra, I am prepared to for the security and comfort that I have.
When my husband reaches 65 we will be eligible for a bungalow with a warden living close by, these are also only two bedrooms, but I think by then we won't have to pay the extra anyway.

custardy

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

No, I'm pointing out that there are those who slip through the net for whatever reason and I don't make broad assumptions about those who claim benefits as many people here do. As I said, nothing in this world is black and white.

And where have I ever said people should be entitled to as many bedrooms as they like? So much hyperbole amongst posters on this forum!

Well you have decided having grandchildren to stay is a genuine reason for a state subsidised spare room.
So what doesnt count?

mojos.revenge

custardy wrote: »

Trapped? How many years have you been on HB with 2 spare bedrooms?

I am not sure that is relevant really, however only about 2 years.
I am disabled, my husband is now my carer, but originally we qualified because of a low income, and children being in education. I can assure you that it was totally above board.

~Chameleon~

mojos.revenge wrote: »

I am not sure that is relevant really, however only about 2 years.
I am disabled, my husband is now my carer, but originally we qualified because of a low income, and children being in education. I can assure you that it was totally above board.

You don't need to explain yourself to these people here. Everyone on benefits is guilty until proven innocent in their eyes.