Universal credit - Example claimant commitment published.

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seems francis maude and ids are having abit of a spat,and maude is planning to remove much of the money pumped in to support the computer systems being unhappy at how much has been wasted

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-minister-francis-maude-describes-3002480

krok

joeblack066 wrote: »

As all the job search completed will eventually be logged on UJM then it will apply to all jobs.

And how will they do that.

It is up to the jobseeker to decide whether they give consent to have their account snooped on by big brother.

Under european law this will always be the case so stop scare mongering. If ids could have done this it would already be in force.

System

Any idea if this will just apply to the unemployed or will this be for those on tax credits too? Specifically if you have a disability which means you can't work full time?

MissMoneypenny

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Any idea if this will just apply to the unemployed or will this be for those on tax credits too?

It's for all income based benefit claimants. The income based benefits presently known as Working Tax Credits; ESA; JSA; Child Tax Credits; Income Support; Housing Benefit (LHA) will be replaced by the one income based benefit - Universal Credit

From what has been said above, these conditions already apply to jobseekers.
But Universal Credit will close the loophole of those who have been doing as little as they can, so that they get the maximum Tax Credits whilst also avoiding the conditions that job seekers have to meet.

Under Universal Credit, all income based claimants will (quite rightly) be treated the same. If they don't earn enough money per week to comply with their Universal Credit agreement, then they will face Universal Credit conditions.

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Specifically if you have a disability which means you can't work full time?

I assume this will be reflected in their own Universal Credit agreement (the minimum amount thay are required to earn per week, to avoid the Universal Credit conditions)?

eve13_2

Perhaps a silly question, but I get Income Support Because I get Carers Allowance which doesn't come under UC. Won't that prevent CA as we cannot earn more than £90(?)/16hours? Or are they perhaps increasing CA to cover the 148 hours a week I care for my adult son? Or will they have plans in place to cover every hour I work plus the up to 90 minutes each way to work?
I remember one of my sons social workers quite earnestly assuring me that work would mean a break for me. Foolish me- that means work is the new leisure, before I come home to the real 132 hours works!

Indie_Kid

eve13 wrote: »

Perhaps a silly question, but I get Income Support Because I get Carers Allowance which doesn't come under UC. Won't that prevent CA as we cannot earn more than £90(?)/16hours? Or are they perhaps increasing CA to cover the 148 hours a week I care for my adult son? Or will they have plans in place to cover every hour I work plus the up to 90 minutes each way to work?
I remember one of my sons social workers quite earnestly assuring me that work would mean a break for me. Foolish me- that means work is the new leisure, before I come home to the real 132 hours works!

Carers allowance isn't included because whilst it's based on what you earn, (you can't earn over £100 a week) it's not income based in the same way that JSA is - IE, your savings are taken into account and income of a partner if you have one.

If you're a carer, then you wouldn't be expected to look for work.

MissMoneypenny

sh1305 wrote: »

Carers allowance isn't included because whilst it's based on what you earn, (you can't earn over £100 a week) it's not income based in the same way that JSA is - IE, your savings are taken into account and income of a partner if you have one.

If you're a carer, then you wouldn't be expected to look for work.

Some JSA is contribution based; as are some ESA claims. It's only the income based benefits for those of working age, that are being replaced by Universal Credit.

Plus under Universal Credit: the anomaly of the income based benefit Tax Credits not counting the savings/capital of the claimant, is ending. Under UC, their claim will be calculated on savings and capital too, in the same way as other income based benefits are assessed now.