CSA - Partner witholding son

clearingout

Marisco wrote: »

Or rather, more important than a court of law?????

Why oh why doesn't this country adopt the Australian way i.e if access is denied for no good reason (DV and abuse excepted of course) then the maintenance is reduced or stopped until the ex toes the line? That would concentrate the minds of ex's if they thought they'd lose money!!

If the child themselves don't want contact then they shouldn't be forced of course, but a greedy or bitter ex should not be allowed to just stop contact for no good reason without some sort of comeback on her/him.

I have a Court Order. My ex has never stuck to it. He fought hard for it then disappeared. He has never been clever enough to wave it under the nose of a CSA caseworker but what's going to happen if he does? His Order says he sees them 3 times as many overnights as he actually sees them. He tells the CSA he has them. I can't prove beyond any kind of reasonable doubt (without involving the children anyway) that he doesn't. How does the CSA caseworker tell a case like mine a part from the case as described by the OP?

PreludeForTimeFeelers

The CSA don't get involved with custody issues - as far as their calculations are concerned though, overnight care is a factor. In this case both parties have admitted that the overnight care has changed, whether that contravenes a court order is irrelevant as far as the child maintenance assessment goes.

EclipsedMind

Gonna stick my oar in here:

Contact orders specify that the child must be made available for contact. It does not mean contact has to happen only that the child should should be available. Therefore IMHO CSA can ignore them as they in no way indicate the current living arrangements only what might happen. I do not think its unreasonable for proof to be sought that contact is taking place.

Shared Residence orders are somewhat different and I would expect the CSA to take them as proof of arrangements. Where living arrangements are not as stated in the order I would expect the matter to have returned to court and a new order or adherence to the current one to be in the offing.

I appreciate that what i think as a rational person and what the CSA might do may well differ immensely.

@OP You need to take the matter to court asap. I have been where you are now. If you need help try FnF and if solicitors too expensive look for a McKenzie friend - some are highly experienced and can help immensely with case management for fairly low costs.

Best of luck.

EM

CSAworkerx

Csa_Survivor wrote: »

WHAT!, you have to take photos of your kid with a newspaper?, not being funny but that is despicable really when you think about it, especially seeing as you will have to do it for weeks and weeks before anyone from CSA will probably believe you and do anything about it!
It was only a few days ago I was feeling mischievous again and commented tongue in cheek on a post by CSAworkerx which stated that we all have "a right to be believed". I joked that I hoped CSAworkerx had got some new glasses for Christmas because the statement that had been read probably actually said, "right to be belittled", it seems that Iwas right after all!!!

i didn't respond to your post in the previous thread, and i wasnt going to tonight, But it annoys me when people associate my views the same as the agency, i WORK for the agency, i dont necessarily agree with everything it does, Which i thought i demonstrated in my post, whole-hardheartedly disagreeing with the nrps circs, but some people like yourself only see a company, not the individual, your username gives that away, i will not be responding to any more of your comments, but wake up please, i do my job to pay bills, just like you do, assuming you work. Im not a 1 man army ready to lose my job becuase some things in life are unfair.

getting back on topic, prelude is spot on yet-again, We do not get involed in custody, we want to know what is happening, not what SHOULD be happening, This is due to the fact we cannot force a mother or father to allow acsess to a child, that is what a magistrate is for, yes it is unfair, especially when it all comes down to money, but its the facts.

Csa_Survivor

CSAworkerx wrote: »

i didn't respond to your post in the previous thread, and i wasnt going to tonight, But it annoys me when people associate my views the same as the agency, i WORK for the agency, i dont necessarily agree with everything it does, Which i thought i demonstrated in my post, whole-hardheartedly disagreeing with the nrps circs, but some people like yourself only see a company, not the individual, your username gives that away, i will not be responding to any more of your comments, but wake up please, i do my job to pay bills, just like you do, assuming you work. Im not a 1 man army ready to lose my job becuase some things in life are unfair.

I think you may have wrong end of the stick somewhere here Csaworkerx, I am a bit baffled to what you mean?
Sunnysea83 made a comment that the particular caseworker he was having a conversation with suggested taking photos of the child alongside a daily newspaper to prove he was having contact with that mentioned child . I then found it amusing that only a few days ago in another separate post you had stated that we all have "a right to be believed", so lining your kid up on every occasion for god knows how long with a daily newspaper before the NRP will be listened to hardly seems like they are being "believed" to me, surely you can see the funny side!
Not sure why you assume I associate your views as the same as the the agency you work for, I dont think I have ever suggested that and do genuinely apologise if you ever mistake my comments as having a direct attack at yourself, I do try not to do that!. As far as I am aware and recall in my mind right now I refer to the CSA as a whole when speaking, and purposely avoid personal comments, they are not meant to be anyway. Just for the record I know that your personal views are not always the same as your employers, I read most of the stuff on here at some point and do see your personal feelings creeping in now and again.