Help with light fitting (photo's attached)

Medic999

Trying to fit a new light to the ceiling, never done this before and despite looking at a few youtube video's i'm still a bit stuck.

I want to replace this :



With this :




So this is the old hanging bulb rose :





Which has

1 x earth (green/yellow)
1 x live (black with red sleeve)
2 x neutral (black)
3 x loop (red)



However the new light fitting only has a hole for Live and Neutral, and a screw to connect Earth to :



So the question remains, what do i do this those 3 red loop wires, and with the second neutral one ?

This ligth is on the middle floor and can be switched on/off from a switch on both this floor, as well as the ground floor, if that's any help.

fluffpot

I can see you've bought and expensive new light (!) which will make it nice and tricky to put up..... Try getting all those wires through the grommet into the light fitting! It won't be happening!

What you need to do is cut a hole in your ceiling (don't worry it will be hidden by your new light), then put the wires into a small junction box (in exactly the same way as they are in the ceiling rose/existing light), wiring in a short piece of 3 core flex which can drop down and be more easily fitted in your new light.

The pop the junction box up into the ceiling, feed the flex into the new light, fix the new light (taking care not to screw into the wiring) and then connect up the L,N and earth.

Easy peasy

Ectophile

I agree with what fluffpot says about the junction box.

All the neutrals (black) connect to each other, and to the lamp neutral.

All the lives (red) connect to each other (but not to the lamp).

All the earths connect to each other, and to the lamp.

The switched live (black with red sleeve) connects to the lamp live.

keletkezes

Not a direct response to this, but a follow-on query, and no photos! I've just had my own kitchen spotlights of horror (rail-type) replaced (by a mate who's qualified sparky) with two fluoro tube lights and another mate has asked if I can replace her same stupid spotlights in her lounge to a simple pendant. I didn't want to change my own because I'm a small girl with no upper body strength so handling a fluoro tube that's the same size as me would have been a bit challenging, but I reckon I can manage a little pendant.

The spotlights were probably fitted quite recently, but will probably be old-style wiring. Do you think I should be alright doing this? I'm pretty competent at DIY when I try, just not very confident about starting!

DevCoder

As long as you can identify the switch-live wire (not all of them will be sleeved to identify which is switch live, so take photos before of the wiring as identifying switch live after removing all cables from their existing terminals is a royal pita), then it should be simple.

Make sure you don't wire the pendant off a transformer if the existing spots are low voltage.

keletkezes

Doesn't look like a transformer (I'm sat under it now!) but I know what you mean: mine had it. Thanks for the advice!