VCS Parking Charge Notice- Do i have a case

Big_Bad_Dad

It's an automated reply which is triggered by any e-mail sent to that address. You'd get that within minutes of sending anything, even a blank e-mail. Everything they do is automated so I shouldn't worry, you're dealing with robots, not humans!

DanceGirl

haha!! thanks! so they will still process my appeal? and I just now wait for a reply yes?! I have just found your POPLA appeals template in another forum Big Bad Dad so will also be following that for my POPLA appeal thanks very much!

DanceGirl

oh no, it was Guys Dad lol! but thanks all the same!!!!!!!!!! )))

Big_Bad_Dad

I thought so! You had me worried for a minute, another year? 38 this year but not THAT OLD!!!! I was thinking, "did I outline a POPLA template?? I don't recall!".

So he and I are both dads! That's a great thing! Good luck to you DanceGirl but you really won't need it. You're on a racehorse!

Coupon-mad

DanceGirl wrote: »

haha!! thanks! so they will still process my appeal? and I just now wait for a reply yes?! I have just found your POPLA appeals template

Yes you will get a rejection letter in January, and yep you will then win at POPLA if you follow the 'How to win at POPLA' link in the 'Newbies read this first' sticky thread. It is NOT about Planning permission, please no planning permission, forget it and forget the mitigation. Just look at the VCS or Excel example appeals under 'How to win at POPLA' in the newbies sticky thread, near the top of this forum. Job done.

Big_Bad_Dad

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Yes you will get a rejection letter in January, and yep you will then win at POPLA ...

This has become a routine hasn't it!

It seems Parking Eye will fund the POPLA campaign in the knowledge they have no hope of winning. They'd be doing themselves a favour if they simply allowed challenges where target mentions NGPEOL. If they don't, POPLA will do the job for them... I think PE deserve a Queen's award for absolute stupidity. I mean for someone to mention NGPEOL it is obvious that he is either versed in Contract Law, or has been advised by someone who is. I can't believe they think they will change the minds of the target by citing the pathetic little badly defended cases where the wind blew in their direction.

HO87

Big_Bad_Dad wrote: »

This has become a routine hasn't it!

It seems Parking Eye will fund the POPLA campaign in the knowledge they have no hope of winning. They'd be doing themselves a favour if they simply allowed challenges where target mentions NGPEOL. If they don't, POPLA will do the job for them... I think PE deserve a Queen's award for absolute stupidity. I mean for someone to mention NGPEOL it is obvious that he is either versed in Contract Law, or has been advised by someone who is. I can't believe they think they will change the minds of the target by citing the pathetic little badly defended cases where the wind blew in their direction.

This is true as far as it goes but the situation is that a large proportion of invoice recipients pay up immediately and a substantial number of those who brave the initial demand will pay up at a later stage. Seemingly maintaining the unbending front instils, in some, the fear that they may lose at POPLA and then "have to pay up" anyway.

Computersaysno

Big_Bad_Dad wrote: »

This has become a routine hasn't it!

It seems Parking Eye will fund the POPLA campaign in the knowledge they have no hope of winning. They'd be doing themselves a favour if they simply allowed challenges where target mentions NGPEOL. If they don't, POPLA will do the job for them... I think PE deserve a Queen's award for absolute stupidity. I mean for someone to mention NGPEOL it is obvious that he is either versed in Contract Law, or has been advised by someone who is. I can't believe they think they will change the minds of the target by citing the pathetic little badly defended cases where the wind blew in their direction.

PE and the other PPCs see POPLA as a necessary expense that gives them legitimacy.


Remember a very small amount of people go to POPLA, the rest pay up or ignore it all.


Prior to POPLA it was a lot easier for us to give advice, now it's a bit of a nightmare [not helped by most posters being too lazy to read anything that we suggest].


Prior to POPLA 'ignore everything [except genuine court papers]' worked, now the PPCs are getting a fair bit of success by actually issuing court papers and even winning at hearings.



So imo POPLA has most likely increased the PPC's profits.

Big_Bad_Dad

To an extent POPLA has indeed helped the PPCs. If I didn't word myself properly I meant, PE and cohorts would be doing themselves a big favour if they cancelled the charges upon their target citing NGPEOL. Because from there on in, it's checkmate and PE has nowhere left to hide - and POPLA will cost them.

Perhaps an appeal - like this:
"Sorry Parking Eye, I never saw the signs, you see I wasn't feeling well and I promise not to do it again"
...which really accedes to their authority and exposes the ignorance of the appellant, this would put them on a winner!

"Nope, you broke the rules, you have to pay, we are the authority, if you don't like it, here's your POPLA code: 0101010101."

But if the defendant cites "NGPEOL", he is hardly going to be swayed by PE's apologetic argument. Can you imagine this?

"Dear Parking Eye
thank you for your breakdown of costs and excuse my ignorance. I really never knew just how much it cost you to run those car parks and that staff handling appeals is included in your fee of £100. May I also send a warm thank you for holding the demand at the reduced rate despite knowing you incur greater costs after 14 days, it is so kind and generous of you. And thanks for drawing my attention to those four case law findings, especially Kevin Shelley. I can't believe I appealed as I did. Please find enclosed £60 + tip

Yours
Nit wit"

To have come so far as to know what NGPEOL is and for those morons to issue a POPLA paper at that stage is downright stupid. It's their funeral, I'm not bothered!