So, fares are going up again...

Wicked_witch

.. in order to spread the cost of running the trains more evenly between the passenger and the tax payer, apparently.

News flash BBC, the people buying tickets to get in to work each day ARE the tax payers! They're already paying both portions! So you'll need to think up another brilliant reason that isn't 'we want lots of money and so do the people who own the train networks' I'm afraid.

It's frightening how stupid the government/ big businesses think we are. I don't even commute and I'm fuming.

Humphrey10

Wicked_witch wrote: »

News flash BBC, the people buying tickets to get in to work each day ARE the tax payers!

Yes but not all tax payers use trains.

wealdroam

Wicked_witch wrote: »

So, fares are going up again...
.. in order to spread the cost of running the trains more evenly between the passenger and the tax payer, apparently.

What are you quoting from, Wicked_witch?
I cannot recall that statement.

Perhaps you meant to say:

"in order to spread the cost of running the trains more effectively between the passenger and the tax payer"

In other words, those who use the trains should pay something nearer the cost of the service provided.

Wicked_witch wrote: »

It's frightening how stupid the government/ big businesses think we are.

I make no comment on that point... except to say they are apparently right in some cases.

Wicked_witch

Yes, it's definitely all to do with how much trains cost to run and nothing at all to do with greedy executives liking money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/9875652/Fat-Cat-rail-bosses-six-figure-salaries-revealed-by-FOI-requests.html

I'm not sure what part of my point you didn't get, but subtly calling me stupid is definitely the most effective way to make yours.

wealdroam

Wicked_witch wrote: »

I'm not sure what part of my point you didn't get...

It's the point you made in your original post... about spreading the cost between the passenger and taxpayer more evenly.

Indie_Kid

Does this mean we'll get a better service? Very !!!!ed off with the service I had right at the end of last year.

Rail_Staff

Wicked_witch wrote: »

It's frightening how stupid the government/ big businesses think we are.

Train companies (in this instance) and the government do not think people are stupid, but they are acutely aware that there is almost nothing that most people can do about it.

Despite the annual fare rises (generally above inflation) passenger numbers continue to grow at a rate faster than the infrastructure can accommodate.

arcon5

Frankly public transport prices is appauling. I pay £4.90 return for a 12 mile journey once a week which costs me otherwise about £3.50; my partner making a slightly longer journey costing £8.20 which would cost £5.90 in fuel. But the real bug bear is we are completely priced out of using public transport more frequently if travelling together or with the child. So about £16-£20 for a journey to the city which we could drive for a significantly less - we need a car anyway so wear isn't that much more.

michael243

Birmingham New St - London Euston

June 2012 - £18
October 2013 - £22.90
January 2014 - £28...

Stupidly annoying price increases ...

yorkie2

York - Doncaster is one of the worst!

Out/rtn: Same day, after 0930:
2000 - £5.00 (CDR)
2007 - £9.70 (CDR)
2014 - £18.60 (SDR)

Out/rtn: different day. Before 0930.
2007 - £16.90 (Saver Return)
2014 - £30.00 (2 x Singles)