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A ticket from NCP for parking in a permit bay

Hi there,

My elderly mother received a PCN at a railway station about 2 moths ago. She had paid for a ticket, however unfortunately due to her age she was not aware she had parked in a "permit bay holders only" section of the car park.

I my self visited the car park to see the permit bay section, and not to my surprise...it was inadequately signed and of course hidden so you fall right into their trap! I found it difficult to find let alone a women of 60 years of age with bad vision.

I took the forums advise and have waited for the NTK to arrive. It is all written well and they have not broken any rules of BPA.

I tried to find a good letter template which will represent my case well, "Inadequate signage and proof of any loss to the PPC" but I have not come across any yet. I would very grateful if anyone could help direct me to the right direction and possibly give me any further points to add to the letter and either get the fine cancelled or win with POPLA.

Thank you all very much.

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Here is one for you, but read the sticky threads as well




    Dear NCP,

    As the registered keeper of (reg) I'm in receipt of your parking invoice xxxxxx dated xxxxxx. I wish to invoke your appeals process as all liability to you company is denied on the following

    1) this charge is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss
    2) your signage does not comply with the BPA Code of Practice
    3) you do not have the authority or permission to issue invoices at this location

    If you reject this appeal please forward a popla verification code so an appeal can be made there, I will be asking for a full breakdown on the above, as you know all appeals are upheld on the points raised.

    Please issue your cancellation within 35 days of this letter

    Faithfully
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,822 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    You must be awfully young if you regard a 60 year old as 'elderly'.

    Should your mother be driving the car at all if she really does have 'bad vision'?
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,909 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    nigelbb wrote: »
    You must be awfully young if you regard a 60 year old as 'elderly'.

    Should your mother be driving the car at all if she really does have 'bad vision'?

    The OP's opening first post doesn't sound right to me.

    It reads like anyone over 60 is expected to be unobservant and incapable of making decisions.

    "I found it difficult to find let alone a women of 60 years of age with bad vision."

    It's perhaps unintentional but I see it as ageist and sexist.

    I do hope this is not another 'wind-up merchant / troll.
  • Someone with 'bad vision' should not be drving a car.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Someone with 'bad vision' should not be drving a car.

    Well that would mean anyone with glasses or contacts should stop driving
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,471 Forumite
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    edited 30 December 2013 at 9:55PM
    Someone with 'bad vision' should not be drving a car.

    Here he goes again! :)



    samin999 wrote: »
    I tried to find a good letter template which will represent my case well, "Inadequate signage and proof of any loss to the PPC" but I have not come across any yet. I would very grateful if anyone could help direct me to the right direction and possibly give me any further points to add to the letter and either get the fine cancelled or win with POPLA.

    In the 'Have you got a private parking ticket? Newbies read this first' sticky thread at the top there are a dozen examples, most of which include those points.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • By bad vision i meant she wears classes but perfectly capable of driving.

    Iceweasel I can assure you I am not an ageist nor a sexist, as I was speaking specifically about a person, not in general. My mother would not be someone I would speak of wrongly either. Also I believed this forum was to help one another with PPC's...not to scrutinise an individual who needs help.

    Stroma I appreciate the quick response and for helping me out. Many thanks.
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