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Number of nights an excluded occupier can have a guest

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  • RobertoMoir
    RobertoMoir Posts: 3,458 Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2013 at 6:34PM
    Why does this happen all the time?

    I ask an incredibly simple question (What is the rule with guests in an AST?) and get a load of replies from the Thought Police?

    If "this" happens to you all the time, you might consider that maybe you are the problem. A number of us answered your actual question by the way, some more thoroughly and clearly than others, sure, but you had an answer.

    You appear to be confusing your life and that of your lodgers with an episode of Man About The House...
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  • Annabee
    Annabee Posts: 653 Forumite
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    Sorry to chip in here, but does this mean that a non-resident landlord has no right at all to impose rules about overnight guests on tenants in a shared house (each with individual contracts)?
  • OK, thanks for the helpful replies.

    Moderator, feel free to delete the idiots' posts. Thx.
  • On an AST:

    * the tenant can have overnight guests provided the LL has given written permission
    * permission is not to be 'unreasonably withheld'
    * it is deemed reasonable to withhold permission if the requests exceed 1 night per week or 5 nights per calendar month

    Can you give me the reference for that? I'd be interested to see the rest of the Law on that. Thanks.
  • RobertoMoir
    RobertoMoir Posts: 3,458 Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2013 at 7:25PM
    Can you give me the reference for that? I'd be interested to see the rest of the Law on that. Thanks.

    As several people have attempted to tell you there is no "law on that". Kynthia has already told you explicitly how this would be handled in an AST and plenty of the rest of us have hinted at it. G_M, the person you quoted above, told you this in the second post on the thread before giving up on trying to drill sense into you and just feeding you some old nonsense that you wanted to hear.

    I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's how it is.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    .... G_M, the person you quoted above, told you this in the second post on the thread before giving up on trying to drill sense into you and just feeding you some old nonsense that you wanted to hear.........
    Thwarted!

    Ah well, I suppose it's only fair to come clean.

    My post was designed to please you, not educate you (since, as has been pointed out, you are reluctant to accept advice that does not please)

    (edit: by 'you', I mean the OP, not you, Roberto. Just so we're clear!)
  • Annisele
    Annisele Posts: 4,835 Forumite
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    G_M - perhaps you might consider editing your original post?

    I was about 90% sure you were joking - you usually quote sources when making definite but odd-sounding statements. But I was only 90% sure, and since it's not something that personally mattered to me I couldn't be bothered to check. You might be creating an urban myth for a casual googler...
  • princeofpounds
    princeofpounds Posts: 10,396 Forumite
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    Sorry to chip in here, but does this mean that a non-resident landlord has no right at all to impose rules about overnight guests on tenants in a shared house (each with individual contracts)?

    They can impose very little.

    They can however agree all sorts of rules in the contract, or refuse to let in the first place.

    But actual enforcement of any rules agreed is very limited. Most such clauses would count as legally unfair clauses in consumer contracts, and be simply unenforceable. In any case, judges only evict for genuinely serious breaches and even persistent guests simply do not qualify.

    So tenants in practice have most of the freedoms of anyone in their own home. Quite rightly.

    Having said all that, landlords can terminate tenancies at the end of the fixed term without any reason.
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