Praise - Jesus

donnac2558

Christmas is really a pagan festival the Christians only took it on as they could not get the people to stop celebrating it.

The tree, the drinking the feasting,the mistletoe and holly all pagan.

So when people now say the meaning of Christmas is lost because of all the greed etc. That is what is was always about. Getting ready for the long dark winter of little fresh food.

forgotmyname

I was told Jesus was all around us. I was in a busy room and asked everyone there if the were jesus. Seems only the drunken ones said yes its them.


But we must not forget the true meaning of Christmas....

I WANT....

And not forgetting can i get compensation... For good measure.

jacques_chirac

marlot wrote: »

Quite a lot of writings from soon-ish after the time which supports his existence.

Like Harry Potter?

preable

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Like Harry Potter?

or lord of the rings

whitegoods_engineer

There is virtually no historical independent written evidence of the existence of Jesus.

dacouch

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

There is virtually no historical independent written evidence of the existence of Jesus.

You'll be telling me next that Santa does not exist

whitegoods_engineer

dacouch wrote: »

You'll be telling me next that Santa does not exist

Afraid so, on both counts!

System

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

There is virtually no historical independent written evidence of the existence of Jesus.

Hmm.

He was very good on the right wing for city tonight so I find it hard to believe he was fictional.....

RichardD1970

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

There is virtually no historical independent written evidence of the existence of Jesus.

Most contemporary scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.

Scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus, and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.

Geoffrey Blainey notes that a few scholars have argued that Jesus did not exist, but writes that Jesus' life was in fact "astonishingly documented" by the standards of the time - more so than any of his contemporaries - with numerous books, stories and memoirs written about him. The problem for the historian, wrote Blainey, is not therefore, determining whether Jesus actually existed, but rather in considering the "sheer multitude of detail and its inconsistencies and contradictions". Although a very small number of modern scholars argue that Jesus never existed, that view is a distinct minority and virtually all scholars consider theories that Jesus' existence was a Christian invention as implausible. This is different to supernatural or miraculous claims about Jesus, which historians tend to look on as questions of faith, rather than historical fact.

The sources for the historicity of Jesus are mainly Christian sources, but there are some mentions also in a few non-Christian Jewish and Greco-Roman sources, which have been used in historical analyses of the existence of Jesus. These include the works of 1st-century Roman historians Josephus and Tacitus.

Like I said, historically recognised, but the rest is a question of faith.

TheSaint_2

Ah, you rocked put a Josephus reference good on you
This was supposed to be a light hearted praise especially as there are so many adult sized spoiled brats on this forum moaning that their Christmas has been ruined by one shop or other because (insert pathetic reason here).


Christmas is a feeling that unfortunately for those that do not understand cannot be bought. If you are miserable your fleeting commercial happiness would soon disappear either with the flush of the toilet or the arrival of your credit card bill.


Remember, it really is the thought that counts.


Merry Christmas.