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Boiler/thermostat horror

srcandas
srcandas Posts: 1,241 Forumite
Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
Just for those looking for new boilers.

I had a valliant Combi installed with a salus thermostat with remote unit one year ago. Lovely in every way until :

The remote stopped working. Replaced batteries. Dead, pushing up Daisies, pining for the fjords, flat on its' back ;)

Called Valliant who said there was no way the bioler could be coaxed to do the heating without the thermo.

Called Salus who said "You'll have to contact the installer". Explained he was away and lives 80 miles away. Despite it being in warranty they could do absolutely nothing. Couldn't even offer to sell me one.

As it happens our new local plumber/gas is going to fit a new thermo (not a salus I may add). But I was lucky it didn't happen Christmas Eve

So if you're buying ask if the boiler will work without the thermo. Or if the remote even runs out of batteries that the heating remains on.

Imagine an old person drops their thermo, perhaps runs over it with their wheel chair. And freezes to death. Perhaps the designers might like to think about that over their christmas turkey.

Happy Christmas one and all :beer:
I believe past performance is a good guide to future performance :beer:
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  • Ruski
    Ruski Posts: 1,628 Forumite
    Or bypass the thermostat connections.

    HTH

    Russ
    Perfection takes time: don't expect miracles in a day :D
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  • srcandas
    srcandas Posts: 1,241 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Ruski wrote: »
    Or bypass the thermostat connections.

    HTH

    Russ

    Russ you'd think there must be a way but Valliant technical support were 100% it couldn't be done. And I guess one would need to beware loss of warranty.

    But surely it is not beyond the human brain for the designers to work around this. The boiler has a clock and temperature controls so it would cost next to nothing. And you can get it to run for 30 seconds or so in sweeps mode so just allow that to run at a constant temp. Simply thoughtless lazy design.

    Imagine if the TV didn't work because the remote was broken? Just before the kick off between fav team and big enemy team :rotfl:
    I believe past performance is a good guide to future performance :beer:
  • Ruski
    Ruski Posts: 1,628 Forumite
    Which model is it ??
    Perfection takes time: don't expect miracles in a day :D
  • katejo
    katejo Posts: 4,320 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I have a Vaillant boiler controlled by a remote thermostat. However, when i first bought the house, there was a simple thermostat on the wall. When that failed, it was replaced with a remote one which has worked fine since but I imagine it would be possible to return to a wall thermostat.
  • sk240
    sk240 Posts: 474 Forumite
    100 Posts
    Yeah you can just short out the thermostat connection in the boiler, it will run continuously then, just set your thermostatic valves correctly and turn the boiler on and off at the mains until it is fixed.
  • gmgmgm
    gmgmgm Posts: 511 Forumite
    Technical support were just covering themselves in case someone does a DIY bodge... I'm sure we can all think of several people we would never want to see trying to short connections on a gas boiler.

    Having said that, making the boiler fire up is a trivial operation; Google (and the tips above) will show how it's done. Fitting a new thermostat is an easy DIY job; any handyman should be able to do it if the home-owner cannot.
  • I_have_spoken
    I_have_spoken Posts: 5,051 Forumite
    edited 24 December 2013 at 1:38PM
    The receiver unit on my Digistat has an override button which fires the boiler until its own C/H thermostat reaches temp.
    Imagine an old person drops their thermo

    Can't even imagine a handheld remote...what's wrong with a wall mounted unit?
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,530 Forumite
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    I'm currently having quotations for a new system and asked one engineer if there was an alternative, as with tvs, pvrs, etc., should the remote fail to work. He said there wasn't, so I'm going for the 'old' method.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,759 Forumite
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    The receiver unit on my Digistat has an override button which fires the boiler until its own C/H thermostat reaches temp.



    Can't even imagine a handheld remote...what's wrong with a wall mounted unit?

    Ours is handheld. Very useful when you want one area warmed to a temp, but not the rest of the house.
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