CSA Payments stopping as no job

DUTR

mandco wrote: »

are you aware that it you have an arrangement in place via csa for payment if you stop work its doesn't mean you don't have to pay?
I know you have contacted them but if they decide that you no longer have a job through choice eg you gave it up(which is why you cant claim benefits?)you will simply rack up a debt based on your current payment which you will have to pay back on top of your monthly payments when you start paying again.

you may be better off if you can arrange an agreement with your ex rather than go via csa in which case you can agree an amount between you rather than use the amount csa decide but now csa payments are no longer used when calculating benefit payments its not often in the pwc interest to accept a lower amount.

Is that fact or a scare mongering rumour? The OP could just offer the £5 or £7 benefits amount, I'm not suggesting he does.
I'm at a stage if I was without work I could claim benefits.

mandco

DUTR wrote: »

Is that fact or a scare mongering rumour? The OP could just offer the £5 or £7 benefits amount, I'm not suggesting he does.
I'm at a stage if I was without work I could claim benefits.

if you lose your job then your payments are adjusted to tak ein account your benefit income therefore you'd be expected to pay £5 a week. if you give up your job therefore make yourself unemployed and unable to claim benefits they can class it as non payment of the amount you owe and you create a debt that you have to repay this is to stop nrp just giving up work in order to avoid having to pay csa.

DUTR

mandco wrote: »

if you lose your job then your payments are adjusted to tak ein account your benefit income therefore you'd be expected to pay £5 a week. if you give up your job therefore make yourself unemployed and unable to claim benefits they can class it as non payment of the amount you owe and you create a debt that you have to repay this is to stop nrp just giving up work in order to avoid having to pay csa.

Is that fact or a scare mongering rumour?
The easy way to prove your point is to refer to the documentation that states so, I remember when the silly witch at the csa was trying to insist on DD or DEO, simply told her SO only end of, if I'm not working they get little or nothing, as the assesment is based on income, then no income means no assesment, take it or leave it :eek:
Yes it's a matter of cut nose to spite face, but not everybody drops there trousers and takes what's given especially when you read these pointless rumours, we have seen posts where NRPs have packed up work, the policy now is something is better than nothing, hence CSA 2 arrived.

mandco

i never said it was definite I just pointed out that its a possibility. there maybe a very good reason why someone gives up work its down to your case worker to decide if your reasons are genuine. a lot of nrp do what they can and some get a raw deal but there are a some who do try to avoid payment

DUTR

mandco wrote: »

i never said it was definite I just pointed out that its a possibility. there maybe a very good reason why someone gives up work its down to your case worker to decide if your reasons are genuine. a lot of nrp do what they can and some get a raw deal but there are a some who do try to avoid payment

That's why I asked the question, the forum board is for both PWC's and NRP's , it's no point readers thinking it's a way for PWC's to milk their child's father or for NRP's to avoid contributing, yes there will be cases that appear unfair, however I disagree that it is solely down to the case worker, they have to work with facts and guidelines.

jayjayuk

Hi,


Thanks for all your replies.


I spoke to CSA and I am on a nil payment as have no income and I am struggling myself to live, and provide for my child at weekends when I have him!? I don't see me getting help with this!! and all I get is a baby. I still need some where to live with heating and food. Especially Since I have worked for 10 years solid on a reasonable wage. I am not one to just quit my job! and have paid my taxes etc....


I still intend to buy my child items that he needs & have, but really feel that giving cash 'which we know will be wasted' not very beneficial to my son. especially during hardship. I personally think that all CSA payments should be paid in this way to benefit the child. Rather than going into mothers pockets for, drink, fags, going out and partying as what I have seen in my case, with countless 'boyfriends'


Personally I think CSA needs a whole shake up!


1. They actually need to organise their staff & programs. It has taken me 6 months for them to update from when I had to go to court & have overnight stays!


2. Payments should be reduced if the father has to go to court to see the child when there is no evidence of abuse or bad parenting etc.... Just the mother being awkward!


3. There should be a fee imposed to reduce abuse on the system.


4. CSA should look at all cases and what people can afford and see what both parents are contributing. Not just what they can milk the other parent for. especially when it's the non full parent that suffers with remarks from the full time parent.


Anyway, these are my views, sorry to have gone on!

CSAworkerx

mandco wrote: »

are you aware that it you have an arrangement in place via csa for payment if you stop work its doesn't mean you don't have to pay?
I know you have contacted them but if they decide that you no longer have a job through choice eg you gave it up(which is why you cant claim benefits?)you will simply rack up a debt based on your current payment which you will have to pay back on top of your monthly payments when you start paying again.

you may be better off if you can arrange an agreement with your ex rather than go via csa in which case you can agree an amount between you rather than use the amount csa decide but now csa payments are no longer used when calculating benefit payments its not often in the pwc interest to accept a lower amount.

This is ridiculously untrue, If you dont have a job we cannot by law assess you on previous income, this is if you have notified us of the change, dont know where you got this utter rubbish from, were not jobcentre plus where leaving your job affects a claim, if you do not work, we do not take payments.