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Boss Creating new job for their mate!

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  • dktreesea
    dktreesea Posts: 5,736 Forumite
    edited 28 December 2013 at 9:47PM
    This is often the case when new bosses come along. They want to be a "new broom" and sweep away all the dead wood, or get rid of people who are perfectly competent but that they are not that into, especially if they have a mate in the wings who needs a job.

    As to "office socials", it depends on who is organising it. I've been in offices where people have organised get togethers but not invited everybody. Maybe it was at their home. Maybe they just wanted to organise a group night out with a few of their friends, which could have been almost the whole office. Sometimes people just don't invite other people along because the rest of the group think they are boring/no fun. Sometimes part timers don't get invited because they are not there that much so not really seen as part of the core group of the office.

    If, at an "office social", everyone is paying their own way, so it hasn't been put on by the company as a reward to their employees, then , to me, it's just a group getting together outside of work, i.e. not a work sanctioned "do".

    OP, are you there because you want more than a job, a bit of a social life as well? Sometimes that can work out, but not always. At the end of the day all we can expect from work is our pay. Yes, we shouldn't have to work in an environment where we feel bullied and undermined, but part timers are like contractors or people on a zero hours contract. They are easy to exclude. So if you have anyone with psychopathic tendencies in the group, who thrive on excluding others, you could be seen as being weak so "fair game".
  • dld2s
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    If you have a HR department speak to them, as has been said context means a lot here.

    Going by the impression I am getting from your post there could be exclusion happening here, that can be seen as bullying, and I know for a fact HR in my work have come down on people pretty hard who have done this, and i'm not just talking about "work" related items,nights either, i'm talking about the folk in the workplace arranging a night out but not inviting someone in the workplace and these folk getting into trouble for it.
  • dld2s wrote: »
    If you have a HR department speak to them, as has been said context means a lot here.

    Going by the impression I am getting from your post there could be exclusion happening here, that can be seen as bullying, and I know for a fact HR in my work have come down on people pretty hard who have done this, and i'm not just talking about "work" related items,nights either, i'm talking about the folk in the workplace arranging a night out but not inviting someone in the workplace and these folk getting into trouble for it.
    There is something fundamentally wrong with this in the fact the employer has to force a group of people to invite someone they don't like to a night out.

    Bigbrother world hey
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  • goonarmy
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    Are you serious? Your boss not being facebook friends with you is bullying now? Seriously?

    Christmas joke right?:D
  • BobQ
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    I would ignore the issue of emails and facebook. The only important issues here are (1) you have a concern that your boss does not like you or the way you do your job and (2) a job is being advertised that you may be qualified/experienced enough to undertake.

    The rest is just you worrying about what you cannot change.

    Re (1) I would speak to your boss in private and ask if he is content with the job you are doing and if not what his problem is. You can mention the menial jobs but do so constructively (= I have been asked to do quite a few tasks recently that are not part of my job spec. I do not mind pitching into help but its affecting my main responsibilities.) He may not realise there is a problem so ask.

    Re (2) if he tells you he has issues with what you are doing he will not expect you to apply. If he has no issues with your job, ask if he expects you to apply for this new job? You could even ask if it has to be a full time job?

    You may be correct in your assumptions about his former colleague, but it could also be that he meets him for other reasons (eg that they have been drinking buddies for years) and has no intention of offering him the job. Will the job be advertised internally first? Do existing staff have preference ?
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  • dktreesea
    dktreesea Posts: 5,736 Forumite
    dld2s wrote: »
    If you have a HR department speak to them, as has been said context means a lot here.

    Going by the impression I am getting from your post there could be exclusion happening here, that can be seen as bullying, and I know for a fact HR in my work have come down on people pretty hard who have done this, and i'm not just talking about "work" related items,nights either, i'm talking about the folk in the workplace arranging a night out but not inviting someone in the workplace and these folk getting into trouble for it.

    That could happen but not always. OP, please just remember, if you do take it up with HR, they are there to protect the company. Sometimes, this means protecting the comapmny from the employee rather than protecting that employee from another employee, especially if they don't think management are doing anything wrong in a legal sense.
  • dld2s
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    edited 28 December 2013 at 11:47PM
    There is something fundamentally wrong with this in the fact the employer has to force a group of people to invite someone they don't like to a night out.

    Bigbrother world hey

    When I first heard about this I couldn't believe it either, I thought it was OTT, and what the hell did it have to do with HR if someone wasnt invited to a night out amongst workmates!

    But when I actually thought about it, I kinda agree to a certain extent, If someone is bullying a work colleague then they may be able to use this as a tool for further bullying and excluding the person more, also more than likely most work nights out are arranged in the work and on company time, so I guess the employer is brought into it in that way and could possibly be liable for some blame if they were seen to be doing nothing?

    Guessing this is probably why our HR will investigate any complaints of this type?
  • dktreesea
    dktreesea Posts: 5,736 Forumite
    Sometimes a boss will target someone they don't particularly care for, much in the same way as the OP's boss has done, as a warning to other employees to take care and work hard, not to mention look after their relationship with the boss, because otherwise they could be the next one to get treated this way. Quite psychopathic imho, but modern workplaces can be just like the priomary school playground. Well, a crueller version, if that's possible.
  • brewerdave
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    OP posted once after midnight just before Xmas ...and has never returned..troll anyone??
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