Will the non existence of the witness statement affect my chances of winning my case?

hunterz1

spacey2012 wrote: »

It matters not if your exit has 30 lanes, you exit roundabouts from the left hand lane unless it has a sign instructing you otherwise.

This is because as I pointed out a vehicle in the nearside lane has in most cases the option of turning left or taking the second exit .
If they are taking the second exit, they are going to drive in to the passenger door of the driver who thinks they can exit the roundabout from the outside lane.

Some will even drive all the way round in the first lane, if you are in the correct lane to exit the roundabout, it is never a problem.
A blue sign shows two arrows and can say "Use Both lanes" where it is a double exit, but these are generally where you are on a continuation of a dual carriageway.
rather than blaming the "driving instructor" you might be better calling him up and asking for some refresher training.

You wont agree, we can see that with "how can they possible contest it"
But here is some practical advice, move in to the left hand lane immediately before your exit unless it is signed otherwise, or you are going to need a lot of new passenger doors.

oh please, if your going to **** i would suggest you keep your mouth closed! about refresher lessons, who do you think you are sunshine?!

End of the day, even if they could of gone beyond exit 2 they still must take care in doing so because in order to take beyond exit 2, they have to get into the middle lane.

On this particular roundabout, i do not believe you can go beyond exit 2 in the left lane. I will check for a sign.

I think it's you who needs refresher lessons. clown.

Richard53

It's a grey area, I think. Roundabouts with one lane each exit are very simple to understand. But when you get two lanes in and out it gets a bit blurred.

Imagine a roundabout with two lanes in and out for each road. You and another car enter from 6 o'clock, one in each lane. You stay in your lanes and exit in your lanes, no problem. But what if someone enters the roundabout from 9 o'clock in their left hand lane, wanting to exit at 3 o'clock (i.e. straight ahead for them) and you are in your right-hand lane going from 6 to 12? At some point, you are going to have to cross paths, and neither of you has priority over the other.

Personally, if I am on the inside lane of a roundabout and someone is on my left, I wait until I can see what their intentions are and if necessary slow down and exit behind them. Assuming they will be turning left when you are is not a safe assumption.

Iceweasel

spacey2012 wrote: »

It is a recent "trend" to try and exit roundabouts from the right hand lane.
You move to the left hand lane to exit a roundabout unless it has a correct blue sign stating "use both lanes"
This is because traffic in the nearside lane can proceed straight on or take the first exit..

If they are going straight on, you are going to have a crash.
If you are exiting roundabouts from the right hand lane, I am surprised this is the first bump you have had.

I have thought carefully about this and I have to agree with spacey and Richard53.

If you are in the inside lane of a roundabout -i.e. nearest the centre - and you turn left onto the right hand lane of a 2 lane road that means that you are cutting in front of another vehicle which is continuing on round the roundabout in the outside lane.

Check your Highway Code.

Presumably you were aware of the vehicle on your left.

Did you assume it was going to turn left into the left hand lane of the same junction that you were turning into the right hand lane of?

Why did you anticipate that was what this vehicle was going to do? It is entirely permissible to continue round a roundabout in the outside lane to reach an exit further round.

spacey is correct in saying that you should have moved to the left hand (outer) lane of the roundabout before turning left into the left hand lane of your junction.

I feel that you may be deemed partly to blame for this collision.

Your statement that 'she pulled a stupid stunt trying to overtake me' is more than likely going to be changed into her defence of 'you cut in front of me as I was going round'.

Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear.

Richard53

hunterz1 wrote: »

I think it's you who needs refresher lessons. clown.

You came here to ask for opinions and you got them. Throwing insults about does your case no good at all.

Even with a reliable witness, I think your chances are 50/50 at best. Reason? Ultimately, you turned across their path, not the other way round.

If you don't like that, you are free to ignore me.

Iceweasel

Can you post the google map location of this roundabout and tell us which direction you approached from and which exit you were taking when the collision occurred?

We can then all have a closer look at the signage.

hunterz1

I cannot find anywhere in the highway code that shows what I have done is wrong, at the end of the day, 2nd exit has two exit lanes, it is perfectly legal to proceed into the 2nd exit.

the way the 2nd exit, is, for them to be in the left lane and to move into into the middle lane they should give way, they did not so it cant be my fault.

spacey2012

Has anyone else noticed it is only in the last 12-18 months that people try to exit roundabouts from the outside lane ?
It must be to straighten the corner out a bit.
I have often astonishingly thought what on earth are they doing.
Some are two lane exits, but as I say usually continuation of dual carriageways.

It is a "new trend" to exit the roundabout like a rally driver from the outside lane, all well and good if that floats your boat, but when someone is going straight on as they often can in the inside lane, you are going to crash and that is that.
I was told when you pass the exit before yours, you indicate with the stick thing move in to the left hand lane to exit whilst indicating left, not drive round regardless and then at the last second decide to turn left.

We may be wrong it may be a dual carriageway with the correct use both lanes signs and road markings.
If so, I stand corrected, if not, next time, move in to the left hand lane to turn left and nobody can drive in to the passenger door. .

rs65

DUTR wrote: »

Was this on the 5 ways island in Birmingham by any chance?

Sounds very familiar

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4219101

post #62 - was a driving instructor in that one too.

rs65

And again

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4470271

Username Hunterz1 or hunterz1.

OP why not be honest and people might be more inclined to help.

Iceweasel

A damn TROLL