Bloody dogs offlead!!!

neveranymoney

What a damn good idea and I really appreciate that comment person_one, there's not a day goes by I don't think about the wee critter and we all talk about him. I hope he's happy now.

Must dash for puppy class, of all things after above convo. It is gale force winds here now so we need to leave earlier. Shadow behaves impeccably during training as she is a hungry hippo who would give her soul for a piece of any food stuff. Just a pity she likes to piddle all over the floor, still, can't win em all!

Person_one

neveranymoney wrote: »

What a damn good idea and I really appreciate that comment person_one, there's not a day goes by I don't think about the wee critter and we all talk about him. I hope he's happy now.

Must dash for puppy class, of all things after above convo. It is gale force winds here now so we need to leave earlier. Shadow behaves impeccably during training as she is a hungry hippo who would give her soul for a piece of any food stuff. Just a pity she likes to piddle all over the floor, still, can't win em all!

The day they invent the perfectly behaved dog will be a sad day!

lostinrates

Can I also shout out for puppy parties?

We did them for the first time ever with my youngest dog and I thought they were fab. Seeing him as a tiny fellow really gave a different side of his personality an airing and while he got to mix with the other dogs at home other puppies are different, and learning their limits was really valuable.

I cannot say my boy wouldn't have been a nice boy without them, but they certainly showed me aspects of his character I wouldn't have seen till later at puppy classes or at ring raft (he infact didn't do puppy classes).

Norma_Desmond

lostinrates wrote: »

But I also think non dog people would do well for their own safety to know some basic rules of thumb, like countryside rules should be known when you are walking there). Things like not petting dogs without asking. Certainly not letting children approach dogs. Not raising voices if possible when their is dispute (if you genuinely think a dog is aggressive raising a voice might provoke the dog to feel defensive....)

I think we could all do to have some manners and sympathy towards each other tbh.

Not raising your voice if you think a dog is aggressive? :rotfl:

Shouldn't my frail old mum have cried for help then when she was knocked to the ground once by a large, offlead dog jumping at her?

The owner of course didn't really give a hoot.

What 'rules of thumb', for their 'own safety' would you apply to the behaviour of members of the public who are out and about minding their own business and just want you to keep your dog to yourself?

lostinrates

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

Not raising your voice if you think a dog is aggressive? :rotfl:

Shouldn't my frail old mum have cried for help then when she was knocked to the ground once by a large, offlead dog jumping at her?

The owner of course didn't really give a hoot.

What 'rules of thumb', for their 'own safety' would you apply to the behaviour of members of the public who are out and about minding their own business and just want you to keep your dog to yourself?

Sorry, I meant at its owner. Yelling at an owner is likely to bring out a defensive instinct. Using a loud assertive and deep voice at a dog is an extremely sensible tactic, and its absolutely instinctive to scream or call out if pushed over.

Person_one

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

What 'rules of thumb', for their 'own safety' would you apply to the behaviour of members of the public who are out and about minding their own business and just want you to keep your dog to yourself?

Well, LIR mentioned a few good ones.

Don't approach, or let children approach, on lead dogs.
Don't tease or wind up a strange dog.
Don't get annoyed by the mere existence of a dog, or a dog walking past you or near you, this is allowed, you don't have a right to a dog free bubble extending 20 feet around you.
Don't shout insults at dog owners.

Just for starters.

Most people I meet day to day in parks and elsewhere are perfectly lovely though I have to say. Most are just getting on with their own thing and are happy to live and let live. Its a small minority of both dog owners and non dog owners who think they're the centre of the universe and nobody else matters.

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

Well, LIR mentioned a few good ones.

Don't approach, or let children approach, on lead dogs.
Don't tease or wind up a strange dog.
Don't get annoyed by the mere existence of a dog, or a dog walking past you or near you, this is allowed, you don't have a right to a dog free bubble extending 20 feet around you.
Don't shout insults at dog owners.

Just for starters.

Most people I meet day to day in parks and elsewhere are perfectly lovely though I have to say. Most are just getting on with their own thing and are happy to live and let live. Its a small minority of both dog owners and non dog owners who think they're the centre of the universe and nobody else matters.

Absolutely. We all have to just put up with each other.....the dog owners and the dog dislikes, the polite and the rude. I'd rather live in a world where people are polite, btu sadly, I cannot enforce it so I just have to try and control my own reactions as best possible and hope I fail less and less often.

Also if you ask to pet the dog and I decline its not because I'm mean to you or the dog.....I have a reason.....and it doesn't matter if you have a 'way with animals', Some times I'm trying to teach my dogs something.


Please don't feed dogs anything, even dog biscuits. I've worked hard not to encourage my dogs to take treats from strangers. I have a reason for that too. Its partly for discipline, partly for diet, and partly so they don't interfere with people who don't want aching to do with them but who they think just might have a biscuit........


Accidents happen. Sometimes I have been knocked by someone's kid. Its a pain and I don't feel very charitable which is very wrong of me in retrospect. Sometimes I have left my hand bag /walking stick /shopoing in a stupid place and made someone trip have felt awful.

Twice my dogs have knocked someone and I have felt dreadful. Both times thankfully the people have realised it has been simply an accident. In turn, my dogs have had accidents playing with other dogs....its not the other dogs' fault......its life. When other dogs' owners have offered me their insurance details I have shrugged and told them its life, my problem. One of my greys back legs is called the kitchen and the other is called the central heating.....where the funds would have gone otherwise.

I'd say if you don't want a dog to approach you then treat it like you are one of the Queens guard. Don't turn you back to it, keep a calm, but assertive posture and body language.

Flapping at a dog you fear isn't could be aggressive could provoke it. Turning you back opens yourself to an assault from behind.

Norma_Desmond

Person_one wrote: »

Don't get annoyed by the mere existence of a dog, or a dog walking past you or near you, this is allowed, you don't have a right to a dog free bubble extending 20 feet around you.
Don't shout insults at dog owners.

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Hilarious! Of course I don't have a right to a dog-free 20ft bubble - I do however have a right not to be sniffed at, slobbered over, jumped up at or chased by your darling pet.

Do you not understand that?

Actually, of course you don't; you're a dog owner.

Person_one

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

Hilarious! Of course I don't have a right to a dog-free 20ft bubble - I do however have a right not to be sniffed at, slobbered over, jumped up at or chased by your darling pet.

Do you not understand that?

Actually, of course you don't; you're a dog owner.

I'm afraid you sound like a dog hater, you're not exactly getting into a constructive dialogue with us here!

Where has anybody said you have to put up with being slobbered over/chased etc?

flashnazia

I wonder what what the responses would be like if the op was talking about aggressive dogs running up to children that are minding their own business?