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melysion

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Broadwood

melysion wrote: »

Strangely enough, I am not in a bubble and I think you will find I am in the real world. Would you be saying that if I weren't in academia I wonder? And no, I wont be ditching my nonnegotiable attitude. That was obviously in reference to my stance on JSA. Its not going to change and I have already asked once, very nicely, for people to not bring up that part of the discussion.

Perhaps we should just let this thread die now. I have already got a load of useful information, so thanks very much

Right now you have many options. If you are lucky you will land on your feet within academia and continue to balance your finances.

As time goes on and if you are not so lucky, those options will diminish and gradually it will be other people or institutions making those decisions which do remain. House, mortgage, bills, lifestyle.

We all need help and advice in life sometimes. No one person is top of the class in every subject or skill. I have family (most now deceased but one still living) who were clergy and missionaries plus one internationally known geographer. All were good in their specific fields but there were many things that they were rubbish at in normal life. In their working lives redundancy didn't exist. All had jobs for life in effect, with houses that came with the job. Today that's not the real world for most people.

Good luck, but as time goes on it would be wise to be rather more flexible in your options or you will eventually discover that your parachute has rotted away before you decided to pull the cord. You will then have a very rough landing with the financial and physical outcomes almost totally out of your control.

A stitch in time........

melysion

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fufu_banterwaite

melysion wrote: »

I seem to have worked so hard and dont deserve my life to fall apart like this.

Why is your life falling apart?! When I was 21 I had three people very close to me die in six weeks – the dad of one of my best friends, my cousin and then my mum. Being an only child and never having had any grandparents that was hard but I never thought my life was falling apart.

I’m sure lots of people on these forums have dealth with worse things and you probably will too in your life.

All that possibly could happen is that you might not have a job come the end of February. I think you are placing too much emphasis on work. I’ve only skimmed through this thread, but do you have a family? Do you have savings? Could you not sell your house and just travel for a bit and work things out?

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fufu_banterwaite wrote: »

Why is your life falling apart?! When I was 21 I had three people very close to me die in six weeks – the dad of one of my best friends, my cousin and then my mum. Being an only child and never having had any grandparents that was hard but I never thought my life was falling apart.

I’m sure lots of people on these forums have dealth with worse things and you probably will too in your life.

All that possibly could happen is that you might not have a job come the end of February. I think you are placing too much emphasis on work. I’ve only skimmed through this thread, but do you have a family? Do you have savings? Could you not sell your house and just travel for a bit and work things out?

Academia is a warm fuzzy place. It's a very social environment. I loved my 2 1/2 years working in research. It is quite different to a typical workplace.

So the OP sees her life as falling apart. Who are you to judge? How do you know what responsibilities she has? A job is more than just money to a lot of people - especially a job with a position of authority. Loosing a job at 21 is very different to loosing one at 42.

Anyway, back to JSA... now, i know it's crazy, but I did once find 2 bioinformatics jobs advertised at the job centre. This is because all jobs.ac.uk positions are advertised there, and some government departments. I got an interview with the Health protection agency for a bioinformatics role when I was job hunting.

I think the scattergun approach is going to be best way of succeeding. A really wide range of applications EVERYWHERE you possibly can think of. Personally, i'd use a website such as http://www.prospects.ac.uk/ to get the names of firms that are currently recruiting. They may be for graduate jobs, but you can check the firms websites or email their HR to find more senior positions.

dandelionclock30

melysion wrote: »

I appreciate your comments but if I claim JSA I wont have any control over my life at all, so I think I will stick with fending for myself.

I am seeking help and advice and if you think I am not aware that i could be in for a bumpy ride then you are wrong. But JSA will not ease that. Only I can do that.

Surely people should be celebrating the fact that I have decided not to ever become a ¨scrounger¨.

By far the majority of people on JSA are not "scroungers" and if you end up with no money and no family to financially support you then you will take the money, sure enough.
When your desperate its amazing what you'll be prepared to accept.
Your no different to anyone elce, do you think other people deserve to be made redundant or to be really struggling for work? Its life Im afraid for you and millions of others who are struggling in this country.

melysion

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

By far the majority of people on JSA are not "scroungers" and if you end up with no money and no family to financially support you then you will take the money, sure enough.
When your desperate its amazing what you'll be prepared to accept.
Your no different to anyone elce, do you think other people deserve to be made redundant or to be really struggling for work? Its life Im afraid for you and millions of others who are struggling in this country.

You don't know me and no I bloody well won´t. Why couldn't people just respect my wishes and leave this part of the discussion well alone?

As for the person judging my reaction to my redundancy. All I am going to say is - you don't have the faintest idea who I am, or what struggles I may have had to get where I am.

I am done with this thread now and have deleted every other post I have written. Could admin lock this please? Thanks

dandelionclock30

melysion wrote: »

You don't know me and no I bloody well won´t. Why couldn't people just respect my wishes and leave this part of the discussion well alone?

As for the person judging my reaction to my redundancy. All I am going to say is - you don't have the faintest idea who I am, or what struggles I may have had to get where I am.

I am done with this thread now and have deleted every other post I have written. Could admin lock this please? Thanks

Because you have come across as really quite offensive regarding your attitude to people on JSA.
Dont you think that might upset people?

melysion

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Because you have come across as really quite offensive regarding your attitude to people on JSA.
Dont you think that might upset people?

Pardon me?

I think you will find you read this incorrectly. Its not people on JSA I have a problem with. Good god, no.

Its other peoples opinion of people on JSA - and how they are treated at the job centre by so called ¨advisors¨, the government, the media and by other people in general I have a problem with.

Its the perceptions of these other people - and particularly the shoddy treatment by the ¨advisors¨ that ensures that i will never enter there. And if people have a problem with my attitude - then perhaps they should look at how they view the unemployed themselves and why people like me wont touch JSA with a barge pole because of it.

I repeat - its not people on JSA I have issue with. Not in the slightest. Why on earth should I? Anyone can fall on hard times.

sniggings

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Because you have come across as really quite offensive regarding your attitude to people on JSA.
Dont you think that might upset people?

not to me, I understood exactly what the OP meant when s/he said they didn't want to claim the dole.

s/he made it clear it was because of the advisers, I am on the dole and took no offense, in fact I was impressed that the OP had so much insight to how claiming the dole/advisers make you feel, with him/she not having claimed before.

The media and Tories have done a good job at turning society against it's self, and I have to say shame on Labour too as they have made a statement that they would be harder on Benefits than the Tories, the dole is a fraction of benefit spending, yet it is given all the focus...anyway I'm now getting off the subject so I'll stop.